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Old 11-03-2009, 11:43 AM   #11
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I am not advocating breaking any law
Yes, you are. Please don't do that here.
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Excuse me, but I seem to have missed the part where he actually advocating any law. I saw a reasonably accurate assessment of the pros and cons of following the law, but no recommendation as to what anyone should do. That sort of thing happens all the time here. Saying, for example, that there's no way to prove that a particular large cap magazine is pre or post ban so don't worry about it isn't advocating violating the law. Neither is pointing out the disadvantages of having filed an FA10 on a firearm advocating that one not file when required.

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Yes, you are. Please don't do that here.
Open your eyes and read the post before you spout off. I specified that I did not advocate breaking any law. You don't even have to file an FA10 if you buy the rifle/shotgun out of state and keep it out of state. A friend who hunts does just that. He is a MA resident but his hunting rifle stays in his vacation home in ME.

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Old 11-03-2009, 02:42 PM   #14
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Excuse me, but I seem to have missed the part where he actually advocating any law.
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You must remember that if you choose to use FA10s, especially on out-of-state purchases [...]
It is not a choice, it is a legal requirement. Suggesting that usage of FA-10s is optional is advocating breaking the law.

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You don't even have to file an FA10 if you buy the rifle/shotgun out of state and keep it out of state.
Quite right, and indeed you shouldn't file an FA-10 in that situation.
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Is there a statute of limitations on failing to file the FA-10?

Say Uncle Marty gave you the shotgun 10+ years ago and you were supposed to do it THEN?
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Is there a statute of limitations on failing to file the FA-10?
Generally, it will be 6 years (C. 277 § 63).
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It is not a choice, it is a legal requirement. Suggesting that usage of FA-10s is optional is advocating breaking the law.



Quite right, and indeed you shouldn't file an FA-10 in that situation.
I did not suggest that the use of FA10s are optional. I do advocate not keeping all of one's eggs in one basket, though. Many MA residents keep guns out of state. My boss lives in NH and he does the same thing. He keeps a hunting rifle at his sister's place in upstate NY. Other MA residents do the same thing to avoid the hassles of transporting them around. If you purchase a rifle/shotgun in NH or another state and keep it there, you will not have to worry about confiscation when the local PD shows up at the door with a "not suitable" letter from the CLEO or, worse yet, a 209A RO. If you want the government to have a complete list of everything that you own and to keep the whole collection in your residence, by all means do so. If you find yourself on the receiving end of a confiscation action, you will lose them all in one fell swoop. I am sure that the Dowd extortion warehouse will be happy to store them for you.
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do advocate not keeping all of one's eggs in one basket, though. Many MA residents keep guns out of state.
I apologize for the accusation, what you were suggesting was not clear.
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or, worse yet, a 209A RO
It should be noted that even constructively possessing a gun while under a 209A order would be a federal felony via the lautenberg amendment. So while you may stop confiscation, you can't touch that gun or constructively possess it while the order is in effect. So that shotgun that's at your bother's cabin in maine or wherever, he would have to lock it up in a container that you cannot access when you come to visit, for you to stay legal, because people with DV RO's are prohibited persons as long as the RO is active.

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I apologize for the accusation, what you were suggesting was not clear.
Apology accepted. I should have been much more specific and/or cited actual examples of what I meant in my first post.
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