Reply With QuoteDoes anyone have any pictures from the weekend?
I literally just spit burrito all over my laptop,Originally Posted by crak
. Thanks again Crak, I will be at every 'seed my job allows me too.
Ed
Does anyone have any pictures from the weekend?
Buck05,
That is a great quote. Putting it into my quote book, and I will use it at an Appleseed soon.
John
I'm interested in finally getting into some competition, but, have a few questions. Are the Appleseed shoots aimed more at beginners? It sounds like there's a block of instruction before the shooting begins, I'm always open to pointers but don't want to sit through a "this is the trigger, this makes the gun go boom" intro class. Also, why the popularity of the .22 rifles? Is it again because of ease of handling, low ammo cost, something else I'm missing? I also see some have scopes and some use iron sights, are there different classes based on configurations? One more, if it's a 40rd qual then why do you need to bring 400rds with you? No complaints about shooting that much, just curious on how this works. Thanks for the answers in advance.
ArmySarge - The Appleseed Project shoots are not competition, they are a mix of instruction and heritage.
The instruction portion consists of roughly 3/4 of a day of instruction and practice designed to teach shooters of any experience level the skills/techniques for shooting rapid fire cadence accurately.
The other 1/4 of the day is used to convey the heritage of this country and why being a rifleman is important - examples from the events of April 19, 1775 are used to illustrate the points.
Over the course of 2 days you'll possibly fire 3 or 4 hundred rounds, depending on your energy level. Day 1 is primarily instruction and practice with the last couple hours shooting AQT targets. Day 2 is mostly AQT's with drills to eliminate bad habits.
Heritage is mixed in at different times of the day - before shooting, lunch, post shooting.
If you're looking more for straight competition I suggest looking for the CMP shoots. If you're looking to shoot more to practice for CMP, then come to an Appleseed and see how fun a challenge can be.
Welcome on the board, hope to see you at a 'Seed shoot.
Sprocket
Last weekend I attended this shoot. I shot somewhere around 5-600 rounds maybe more. I went to my first Appleseed on labor day weekend, and was borderline embarrassed with myself because I walked in with the "I know how to shoot" attitude, and my targets told a different story. It wasn't until the second day of my second shoot that I forced all my military bad habits out completely and allowed the instruction to sink in that I shot Rifleman.
I wouldn't discount these events as a beginners shoot that would be a waste of time, it is designed for everyone, beginners to advanced shooters. It is also a great way to meet up with good, like-minded people. The history lessons are great, the instructors are very good and enthusiastic about what they are doing, and it is 2 days of cheap shooting. I highly recommend at least attending one, bring the girlfriend, wife, and kids (if you have them), they all shoot at the cost of ammo, no registration fees.
I will be at everyone that I can swing from now on.
Ed
APPLESEED: A PRIMER FOR EXPERTS
Check out the "What to Bring" checklist. #1 one that list, because it's the most important, is a teachable attitude. If you have a real desire to learn and improve, Appleseed will push you to your personal limits--and beyond. Even if you are an experienced or expert shooter, you will learn more about yourself in 2 days than you have in all your past experiences in any other programs. If you have marksmanship demons, you will get to know them quite well, and then we'll help you exorcise them. But it's best to arrive with an open mind, not one with "expert" blinders on.
Ask anybody. Appleseed works. The reason Appleseed works is that we start at the "beginning" and go through every single step in the process necessary to firing accurately and reliably under pressure. You'd be surprised how many experienced shooters discover that they had missed or forgotten critical pieces of the skill set despite the best of training.
(For the record, the "beginning" is after you know how to fire your rifle and have fired about 100 rounds through it. While we get complete novices frequently, we take them off to the side at first for the really basic stuff. You won't have to worry about that.)
First, we shoot approx. 500 rounds per shooter per day for two days. You can buy a new Ruger 10/22 for the cost of the centerfire ammo alone. For a .22, the ammo cost is as low as $15/day.
Second, after the instruction, the course of fire is mainly 40 rounds in 4 minutes, run for the rest of the day. Part of this is intended to break you through to the other side. (It's kind of a zen thing.) We do break up the grind from time to time to run various remedial drills as needed. Sometime we even run fun team exercises involving running to your rifle (or to a different rifle three slots down), loading 40 rounds, and putting as many hits as you can on a wickedly small target in 60 seconds. (Hint: you can't miss fast enough.)
We also break up the shooting with amazing tales of organization, heroism and spastic chance that took place on April 19th, 1775, the day "a shot was heard around the world." Our forefathers sacrificed everything they had to bring us a free country. As Americans we have a unique obligation to pass that inheritance on to our neighbors and future generations. Appleseed is there to help.
Thanks for the replies, very good info that has me even more interested. I am definitely teachable and this sounds like it could be a good time on top of that. Hopefully my irregular work schedule and upcoming marriage don't prevent me from attending at least 1 next year. I'm still wondering about the scope vs iron sights thing, is it simply a matter of personal choice?
I used a scope last time because I need new prescription glasses and couldn't see with irons. Once I get new glasses, I will try again with irons, as I have a 10/22 set up with tech sites. It is all personal preference as the 6 steps of firing a shot don't change regardless of what you are using to point the rifle.
Myself, I wanted the challenge of irons - being newish to rifle shooting (more than plinking) I wanted a good foundation before I started using optics.
Knowing your equipment well is more important than what exact equipment you use.
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