LEOSA in NH

[Len-2A Training]

I am a qualified LEO from NY and will have a retired ID when I retire this year. My agency won't provide qualifications for retirees. I spoke to a local instructor in NY that does retiree qualifications. He said that the qualifications have to be done either by your agency or an someone authorized in your home state. If you move out of NY and your agency won't do it then it needs to be done in your new home state. I have read that NH agencies will only qualify their own retirees and the state hasn't issued private instructors authorization to qualify anyone else.

NH requires that you qualify with an ACTIVE LEO only. Once the LEO retires, s/he is no longer qualified to qualify others for LEOSA. It's rare to find a NH LEO who is both qualified to do this and willing to qualify folks that weren't with his agency. MA certifies some instructors to qualify any retiree who lives in MA or retired from a MA agency. I am one of those who holds that MSP qualification. I go back to MA each year to get my own qualification done.

 

[Jared]

I am a qualified LEO from NY and will have a retired ID when I retire this year. My agency won't provide qualifications for retirees. I spoke to a local instructor in NY that does retiree qualifications. He said that the qualifications have to be done either by your agency or a someone authorized in your home state. If you move out of NY and your agency won't do it then it needs to be done in your new home state. I have read that NH agencies will only qualify their own retirees and the state hasn't issued private instructors authorization to qualify anyone else.

If you currently have a residence in New York, you can apply for a Pistol License AND you can keep it under state law if you move out of the state. Plenty of people all over the country have a NY pistol license. You would just have to recertify.

The NYSP have instructions on their website on how to recertify if you no longer have a NY DL or NY ID card.

State law only requires that you notify the state police when you move. You don’t even have to let the Pistol Clerk/Judge know.

 

[In God We Trust]

What state did you serve in? If it was MA, I can qualify you. NH is a PITA to qualify LEOSA annually.

I wasn’t aware you did LEOSA quals. I need to get with you on that. I worked for the feds and they don’t issue retired ID cards. I’m wondering if you have any suggestions with that?

 

[Len-2A Training]

I wasn’t aware you did LEOSA quals. I need to get with you on that. I worked for the feds and they don’t issue retired ID cards. I’m wondering if you have any suggestions with that?

Unfortunately the first requirement is that the retiree have a retired ID card.

 

[KBCraig]

I wasn’t aware you did LEOSA quals. I need to get with you on that. I worked for the feds and they don’t issue retired ID cards. I’m wondering if you have any suggestions with that?

Hmm. I'm retired fed LE, and I have credentials stamped "Retired Law Enforcement Officer".

And that's from an agency that fought like hell against acknowledging LEOSA, until AG Ashcroft told them in no uncertain terms that we qualified.

 

[TomMalthus]

The "LEOSA Reform Act" has been introduced, H.R. 354. If it passes it will imperfectly resolve the qualification issue, among other changes.

 

[M1911]

Hmm. I'm retired fed LE, and I have credentials stamped "Retired Law Enforcement Officer".

And that's from an agency that fought like hell against acknowledging LEOSA, until AG Ashcroft told them in no uncertain terms that we qualified.

It’s amazing how the bureaurats fight this sort of thing even though they themselves will one day be retired under it.

 

[KBCraig]

It’s amazing how the bureaurats fight this sort of thing even though they themselves will one day be retired under it.

SES don't care what they once were, only what they might be. It's a sold-your-soul pay grade.

 

[AFammo]

Merrimack SHERIFF Office does the training for a donation to their benevolent assoc. Everyone in the area dosent want to be bothered. Sig gave some weird excuse.

 

[Len-2A Training]

Merrimack SHERIFF Office does the training for a donation to their benevolent assoc. Everyone in the area dosent want to be bothered. Sig gave some weird excuse.

Good info. Thank you. If MA kills the NR LTC, I'll need to do it in NH.

Do you mean the Hillsborough County Sheriff's office located in Merrimack?

 

[Jared]

Good info. Thank you. If MA kills the NR LTC, I'll need to do it in NH.

Do you mean the Hillsborough County Sheriff's office located in Merrimack?

If they do that, I see it being temporary. There will likely be a lawsuit for a non-resident to apply to any police chief. After Bruen, it would be very difficult for the 1st circuit to endorse a ban on firearms/ammo/shell casing for people who don’t have a residence/business in MA.

NY and CA have similar lawsuits going on and they’re likely to lose.

I don’t think they will repeal the 131F license. The Senate version of the bill keeps it in there.

 

[KBCraig]

I don't follow LEOSA too closely, but there is an update bill pending.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/354

 

[WJ406]

I don't follow LEOSA too closely, but there is an update bill pending.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/354

Rep. Bacon has been introducing that same legislation for years and nothing has happened. I’m not sure why. The original LEOSA bill and its subsequent amendments were passed with bipartisan support.

This reform bill seems beneficial. It takes care of the magazine, school zone, and post office issues (not that I’ve heard of any LEO or RLEO being jammed up with any of these).

I will still never understand why the Republicans didn’t pass this, and a host of other pro-2A legislation, when they controlled the Presidency, Senate, and House for two years under Trump.

 

[WJ406]

Ranking Member Nadler Opening Statement for House Judiciary Markup of H.R. 354, the "LEOSA Reform Act"

I did some more research. Of course Jerry Nadler is involved in this. When it comes to cops carrying firearms, all of a sudden the democrats cry about “state sovereignty” and state’s rights to ban out of state LEOs from carrying. But when Texas wants to secure their border, where are these same Dems supporting state rights?

 

[Len-2A Training]

Rep. Bacon has been introducing that same legislation for years and nothing has happened. I’m not sure why. The original LEOSA bill and its subsequent amendments were passed with bipartisan support.

This reform bill seems beneficial. It takes care of the magazine, school zone, and post office issues (not that I’ve heard of any LEO or RLEO being jammed up with any of these).

I will still never understand why the Republicans didn’t pass this, and a host of other pro-2A legislation, when they controlled the Presidency, Senate, and House for two years under Trump.

LEOSA was first proposed in the 1990s, when I was still on Compu$erve's LE-only forum. It only got traction and passed after 9/11 happened.

Without a "crisis" in the US, legislators just go to sleep and don't address the issues with the current law.