100yd, - 1000yd. capable rifle recommendations

[je25ff]

So I have a pistol, shotgun, and AR in my collection so far. I'm looking to round it out with a decent rifle that I can start practicing on a 300 yard range.

Anyone have a recommendation for a beginner? I was thinking maybe a Remington 700 would be a good start?

 

[Fixxah]

Something in 50BMG or 338 Lapua perhaps? They will reach out and touch things.

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[je25ff]

Something in 50BMG or 338 Lapua perhaps? They will reach out and touch things.

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.338 perhaps, I was looking at the Bohica .50 upper for the AR, but would prefer to have a separate rifle for that. I think a .50 may not be something I want to get into to start. Ammo is pricey...then again, so is the .338 I think.

 

[Jose]

Remington Model 700 5R .308 Winchester. Good to go out of the box.

BTW, the difference in difficulty between 300 yards and 1000 yards is like the difference between driving on an interstate at the speed limit and driving the Nurburgring balls out. Particularly with a 308.

 

[n1oty]

I've always been fond of the 30-06 as an exceptionally versatile round that works well close in and far out.

 

[Old Glory]

Buy Once Cry Once Rifles:
Accuracy International AW
GA Precision
Underground Skunkworks
Surgeon Rifles
SAKO TRG-22
SIG SSG or TAC 2


Good Package:
Sniper Central Intro Package rifle $1,500 with scope http://www.snipercentral.com/scriflepackagedetails.phtml?packageid=2

Great Place To Start and you Can Upgrade Later:
Remington 700
Savage
Weatherby Varmint Sub MOA
Tikka T3 Varmint

 

[je25ff]

Good Package:
Sniper Central Intro Package rifle $1,500 with scope http://www.snipercentral.com/scriflepackagedetails.phtml?packageid=2

That, I think, might be a winner. Thanks, dude!

 

[highlander]

I'd say 308 in a bolt. Ammo can be found almost any where. 338 Lapua I'm willing to bet the rifle is going to cost and the ammo big time and it's something you won't find at Pop's diner and ammo supply.

 

[cockpitbob]

1,000 yards is more about the bullet than the gun. You need a long low drag bullet to stay supersonic out to 1,000. That translates to barrel twist. 12" twist is marginal, 10" twist is just right for stabilizing the bullets with drag coefficients greater than .475.

If you want to make holes in paper and hunt, consider a 6.5mm cartridge. The 260 loaded with a long, low drag bullet is a great 1K yard round and won't break your shoulder or bank account. The 6.5X284 is a dominating 1K yard round. Heck, my next gun will be a .243 and with a fast twist barrel and long bullets that will be a great 1K yard performer.

I used to compete at 1K yards with my 30-06 hunting rifle (10" twist and 4-16X scope) and could beat about half the guys with their tacticool rigs. I didn't get teased much because they knew if I beat them I would rub their nose in my 21" skinny barreled wood stocked sporter.

 

[Jose]

That, I think, might be a winner. Thanks, dude!

I bought this one instead

http://www.snipercentral.com/scriflepackagedetails.phtml?packageid=1

 

[je25ff]

I ended up getting the 700 model with the adjustable stock, the spec ops bolt knob (yes, not necessary but I didn't want to have to change it later) and the rest stock including the scope that comes with the build. I'm not going to get into different mil presentations until I learn the basics I think. I would rather learn without the aid of wind gauges, levels, and range finders at 300 yards first. If I can burn through a few hundred rounds and get 300 yards dope, I would be happy.

I figured I could get the porting done later if I needed. I went with the .308 despite reading the .300 win mag is preferable at longer distances (velocity on target at 800+ meters right?) I am really getting started so there's no need to spend the extra $400 until I am proficient with this.

 

[Old Glory]

Sounds great! Good luck.

 

[PatMcD]

In the long run, you'll be happier with the .308 over the .300 Win Mag.

 

[cockpitbob]

In the long run, you'll be happier with the .308 over the .300 Win Mag.

This.
The 300WM's groups will start to open up due to throat errosion about 4X faster than the .308. We cast the chamber in my friends 300WM and it had serious errosion after about 2K rounds. (we cast it because it wouldn't group any more) The .308 should be good for 5K- 10K rounds (YMMV). The .308 is also easier on your wallet and shoulder.
Lastly, it will teach you to dope the wind better than the 300WM. After all, what fun would it be to have a gun that hit exactly where you pointed it? That would be no more fun than shooting at 50yards.

 

[JuergenG]

The 6.5X284 is a dominating 1K yard round.

Sure is, but it's a torch, too. Talk about a buck a pop just for the barrel wear.
I know some folks who are shooting F-class with a 6.5x284; they are through a
new barrel every 1,000 +/- rounds. Deduct approx. 100 rounds for "lapping" the
barrel.

Lately the 7mm calibers ( 7/.300 WSM,7/.270 WSM,.284 Win., 7 SAUM) seem to
more and more replace the 6.5 in F-class.

 

[dlarge]

Remington Model 700 5R .308 Winchester. Good to go out of the box.

BTW, the difference in difficulty between 300 yards and 1000 yards is like the difference between driving on an interstate at the speed limit and driving the Nurburgring balls out. Particularly with a 308.

Is this the one? Would you recommend this over the packages at Sniper Central?

 

[Jose]

Is this the one? Would you recommend this over the packages at Sniper Central?

Yes and yes

 

[Jose]

I'm gonna have to agree with cockpitbob on calibers.

The 260 Remington with a 139 gr Lapua Scenar or the 243 Winchester with a 115gr DTAC are kick ass long range calibers.

 

[Old Glory]

Those other rounds are superior, but in my opinion, for someone just getting started, .308 is probably the more realistic caliber. It is cheaper and there is plenty of match ammo available to practice with. Grab a Remington and shoot it until you outgrow it then upgrade to a different round or custom rifle. Don't skimp on on the scope. Get the best glass you can.

"Originally Posted by dlarge View Post
Is this the one? Would you recommend this over the packages at Sniper Central?"
"Yes and yes "

Why? Is the mil spec barrel that much better than the heavy barrel?

I was debating between one of the Sniper Central Packages or 700P in .223. I wanted the .223 to practice at my local range which only goes to 100 yards. The package was $1,500 and the 700P was $875. I went with the 700P and will upgrade things later if I need to. First I need to get a scope and shoot it. Bear Basin has a layaway plan and will let you pay it off over time.

For out of the box accuracy I would highly recommend a Sako TRG-22. Shot this group Monday 5 shot group prone position using bipod 100 yards

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[Gammon]

So I have a pistol, shotgun, and AR in my collection so far. I'm looking to round it out with a decent rifle that I can start practicing on a 300 yard range.

Anyone have a recommendation for a beginner? I was thinking maybe a Remington 700 would be a good start?

If you are going to shoot at 300yds an AR is a good choice. I recently built one with a 16 in DPMS barrel that groups just over 2 in for five rounds at 300yds. Even with expensive match bullets the 223 costs only a fraction of what you would spend on the larger calibers. I would avoid DPMS barrels, hovever, as my barrel was cheap, at $160, but came with a rough chamber that took several hours of polishing to fix. This was the third time I had this problem with a DPMS barrel; I'm done with them.