17-year-old arrested in killing of 2 people in Kenosha

The only problem with the 'straw purchase' charge is that Wisconsin law has a carveout for 16 and 17 year olds just like they do for the possession charge they tried to pin on Kyle. Now that the judge has ruled that the gun charge is invalid because 16 and 17 year olds can't be charged under the statute then the lawyer presenting Dominic should be asking for a dismissal.

Also in this case, I believe on close by binger and in cross of rittenhouse, binger said the rifle was Dominics. That’s Dominics defense in his issue
 
No.

If the two are afraid, but believe he's not guilty, they should man the f*** up and live up to their responsibility. This isn't about their fears; it's about their obligation to their own little corner of whatever "justice" system we have left. I think this judge will tell them that, and sternly.

It's called jury DUTY for a reason.
Agreed but your asking for these people to do the right thing, that my friend is unfortunately a very tall order for most people in todays society.

Throw a little fear at people and they will most likely run away from it.
 
If they understood duty, they wouldn't be holding out due to fear or intimidation. This isn't like a jury that has a hard time coming to a unanimous decision and are sent back in to deliberate further. Any berating from the judge would only fuel appeals from whichever side loses claiming these two pissants were coerced into whatever finding they eventually choose.

The well is poisoned. Replace them, continue without them or declare a mistrial.
 
I dunno... Ask Picton. [rofl]

Ask me later. I'm still smoking a cigarette.

Agreed but your asking for these people to do the right thing, that my friend is unfortunately a very tall order for most people in todays society.

Throw a little fear at people and they will most likely run away from it.

It's not me asking. It'll be the judge, plus the other ten jurors who will have zero patience for their shenanigans.

I mean, we'll see. As I posted above, it's easy for me to say. But if the two holdouts think ANYTHING will protect their identity, no matter what happens, they're delusional. The Mob will know who they are, and if they were predisposed to vote Not Guilty (which is what the reports are implying), that will be known by the press and by the judge, who (I think) would be likely to use that information as a reason to dismiss the charges.

Everyone's already going to know their names. IF Kyle gets anything other than a guilty verdict, and IF mob violence is getting set to rain scunnion on the jurors, these two aren't going to save themselves no matter how they vote tomorrow at ten.
 
Ask me later. I'm still smoking a cigarette.



It's not me asking. It'll be the judge, plus the other ten jurors who will have zero patience for their shenanigans.

I mean, we'll see. As I posted above, it's easy for me to say. But if the two holdouts think ANYTHING will protect their identity, no matter what happens, they're delusional. The Mob will know who they are, and if they were predisposed to vote Not Guilty (which is what the reports are implying), that will be known by the press and by the judge, who (I think) would be likely to use that information as a reason to dismiss the charges.

Everyone's already going to know their names. IF Kyle gets anything other than a guilty verdict, and IF mob violence is getting set to rain scunnion on the jurors, these two aren't going to save themselves no matter how they vote tomorrow at ten.
I mean


Mibro did spot me a hundred I can get some extra tinfoil

But could this whole thing be a setup.

There's an awful lot of footage of these guys.

From the diddler running around all crazy

Kyle giving the interview before

Then of the shooting

A secret fbi drone

The judge from ghostbusters

Gary oldman prosecuting

Now keeping us in suspense for the verdict

Its all lining up too neatly for me
 
Also, haven’t ever been in lockup.....yet.
No haute cuisine in Terre Haute.


On Howie Carr tonight there are supposedly 2 on the jury that are holding things up. They are afraid their names will be released and worried about their family.
You did hear that.
In a cursory search just now I failed to turn up the report it was based upon.

It'll be moot soon enough.

If the two are afraid, but believe he's not guilty, they should man the f*** up and live up to their responsibility. This isn't about their fears; it's about their obligation to their own little corner of whatever "justice" system we have left. ...

It's called jury DUTY for a reason.
It's called "jury duty" -
not "a suicide pact".

Has the government suddenly developed plans
to start fulfilling its obligations to residents?

As contaminated as the Kenosha jury pool is against Kyle, the rest of Wisconsin ain't much better.
Paradise lost.
 
Littlefinger is living with another Kenosha county judge.

 
Does Kyle get to walk out with his rifle if its not guilty?
I read somewhere that the prosecution doesn't have Kyle's rifle, and that they don't know how long the rifle barrel is.
I don.t know how accurate that is because I've seen pictures of the DA holding a rifle in court.
 
Why sequester?

They haven't been sequestered for the entire trial, so why start now?
I was wondering why they haven't been sequestered for the entire trial considering the potential for violence against the jurors. and them seeing or hearing something other than the testimonies in the courtroom that might slew their decisions
 
Nope. That rifle is evidence in the upcoming Strawman purchase that the DA said he is going to prosecute...
Was the rifle purchased in Illinois or Wisconsin? Which DA is going to prosecute? If it is Wisconsin it will be pretty hard to convict since the court established that the possession was not a crime. It would also make every Dad that hands their kid a rifle during deer season at risk of similar charges
Any berating from the judge would only fuel appeals from whichever side loses
The prosecution does not get to appeal.
 
Prosecutors acted in bad faith... Defense motion for Mistrial with Prejudice: Prosecutors in Kenosha shooter trial WITHHELD evidence from defense

Just read that this morning. Scumbag prosecutors

I almost get the feeling that the prosecution is deliberately trying to lose the case.
Add the lack of disclosure to the question about "right to remain silent" which is law school 101, and it's beginning to look deliberate.

My take is the prosecutor knows this kid should walk, but he is too much of a spineless pussy to drop the charges out of fear of the political fallout and the mob.
He doesn't want to be responsible for BLM and Antifa burning Kenosha to the ground.
This is what happens when officials ignore the rule of law. If the Governor wasn't a useless twatwaffle, she would tell the public that looters and rioters would be shot on sight. You want to protest, go ahead. Light a match or break a window and be shot. Then we would see who is really dedicated to a cause and who are just criminals looking to profit from unrest.
 
I almost get the feeling that the prosecution is deliberately trying to lose the case.
Add the lack of disclosure to the question about "right to remain silent" which is law school 101, and it's beginning to look deliberate.

My take is the prosecutor knows this kid should walk, but he is too much of a spineless pussy to drop the charges out of fear of the political fallout and the mob.
He doesn't want to be responsible for BLM and Antifa burning Kenosha to the ground.
This is what happens when officials ignore the rule of law. If the Governor wasn't a useless twatwaffle, she would tell the public that looters and rioters would be shot on sight. You want to protest, go ahead. Light a match or break a window and be shot. Then we would see who is really dedicated to a cause and who are just criminals looking to profit from unrest.
Points for including both "spineless pussy" and "useless twatwaffle" in the same post.
 
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