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sorry... i meant that to the OP.As I remember, the Long and Long rifle use the same case and the Long uses a shorter bullet. Some old timer can correct me if I'm wrong. Jack.
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Op, the use of lf in your first sentence and lr in your second sentence seems to be my problem with your question. LF could stand for Lead Free:
Varmint LF | Winchester Ammunition
LR stands for long rifle. Some guns might delineate that they are suitable for shorts, longs, and long rifle .22 shells:
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Some are spelled out completely and some are abbreviated. LR = Long Rifle
Lead free is interesting...
The question then is: are the LF shells shorter?
" Unlike the Stinger, which is loaded in a slightly lengthened, nickel-plated, LR case, the Copper-22 is loaded in a standard length, brass, Long Rifle case. The exposed portion of the Copper-22 bullet is approximately as long as the exposed portion of the much heavier Stinger bullet."
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So: Stinger~Lead 40 grain Long Rifle~ Lead Free 21 grain Long Rifle are all about the same overall length. (Based on CH analysis above.)
I therefore think that the "lf" was a typo which added to the intrigue of your question.
Hope you found this helpful.
I'm not sure that actually clarifies your original question.Yes I have fat fingers. LR. Vs. long rifle
Yes I have fat fingers. LR. Vs. long rifle
newer production 22lr firearms seem to have more issues that 50 years ago!Gun is an issc pistol. Ammo is federal hyper shock. 22long rifle. Have not tried it with another 22 yet. Also had issues with fed automatch. 22lr. In both the issc and gsg5.
I agree that only until very recently the“newer” 22s have more issues cycling reliably. My 50 year old llama runs like a swiss watch. My newest 22s, a smith m&p compact and a Taurus tx22 both run great regardless of the crap ammo I’ve triednewer production 22lr firearms seem to have more issues that 50 years ago!
Look at all the different 22lr ammo types and all the "problems" newer guns seem to have.
i have a few 50 plus year old 22s that will cycle shorts, longs and Long Rifle with out a fuss.
I gave up on Remington and Federal 22lr years ago. for general shooting CCI SV , Aguila super extra, SK standard plus.
Wolf Match extra, eley (assorted types). For a bit more consistency and accuracy.
Have fun, find something the pistol likes and buy as much as that lot number you feel necessary.
Theres no reason why todays 22s should have problems cycling 22lr SV . You should not need mini mags or high velocity to help cycle your firearm. They intent of mini mag was a bit more umph down range .I agree that only until very recently the“newer” 22s has more issues cycling reliably. My 50 year old llama runs like a switch watch. My newest 22s, a smith m&p compact and a Taurus tx22 both run great regardless of the crap ammo I’ve tried