74yo shoots 16yo in home invasion

[Palladin]

74-year-old homeowner shoots 16-year-old in his Ohio house. ‘He didn’t belong here’

“I pumped two into him there. He went down the steps that way and I got him a third time I hope.”

www.yahoo.com

Homeowner shoots 16-year-old intruder on Johnston Street in Akron

A homeowner shot a teen who allegedly forced his way into his home on Johnston Street in Akron, police said.

www.news5cleveland.com

kid is getting released from the hospital. pops needs to do a caliber upgrade

 

[SHOCKNAWE]

Don’t break into peoples houses and this shit won’t happen.

Pretty friggen simple

 

[mac1911]

Don’t break into peoples houses and this shit won’t happen.

Pretty friggen simple

That logic is wasted on these morons

 

[safetyfirst2125]

screen name?

 

[Chevy 2 65]

Don’t break into peoples houses and this shit won’t happen.

Pretty friggen simple

I have always said that. Always.

 

[Rat187]

screen name?

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"@BadMotherf***er"....

 

[Hoover]

The homeowner should talk to a lawyer who would give him some good advice, SHUT UP.

Shooting to protect property is a risky choice. Even if you believe you are legally justified, a prosecutor may disagree. Even if you’re acquitted, you may spend several hundred thousand in the process.

 

[ccm75]

Guy needs to stop talking about shooting the kid as he ran away...

 

[Hoover]

Guy needs to stop talking about shooting the kid as he ran away...

He absolutely needs to shut up.

I’m not sure if the 3rd shot was him going down stairs in the basement away from the guy or towards the guy. I’m assuming away from the guy. With the castle doctrine etc, I’m not sure how Ohio law applies but it’s not a good look when the person is moving away from you. Hopefully Branca covers this case.

 

[Dadstoys]

 

[safetyfirst2125]

He absolutely needs to shut up.

I’m not sure if the 3rd shot was him going down stairs in the basement away from the guy or towards the guy. I’m assuming away from the guy. With the castle doctrine etc, I’m not sure how Ohio law applies but it’s not a good look when the person is moving away from you. Hopefully Branca covers this case.

In Ohio, there's a legal presumption that a person acts in self-defense when he or she uses force against anyone who unlawfully enters his or her residence or vehicle.

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Ohio Self Defense Laws Overview​

Below you will find an overview of key provisions of self-defense laws in Ohio.

Statute(s)	Ohio Revised Code Title XXIX. Crimes Procedure Section 2901.05 (Burden of Proof - Reasonable Doubt - Self-Defense) Section 2901.09 (No Duty to Retreat in Residence or Vehicle)
Presumption of Self Defense	There's a presumption that a defendant acted in self-defense or defense of another if he/she used force intended/likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if the person against whom the defensive force was used unlawfully entered (or was in the process of unlawfully entering) the residence or vehicle occupied by the defendant.
When the Presumption Does Not Apply	The presumption of self-defense doesn't apply if: the person against whom the defensive force was used had a right to be in the residence or vehicle; or the defendant used force while unlawfully in the residence or vehicle.
Duty to Retreat?	A person lawfully in his/her residence has no duty to retreat before using force in self-defense, defense of another, or defense of his/her residence. In addition, a person lawfully in his/her vehicle, or lawfully in a vehicle owned by an immediate family member, has no duty to retreat before using force in self-defense or defense of another.
Related Statute(s)	Ohio Revised Code Title XXIX. Crimes Procedure Section 2901.06 (Battered Woman Syndrome Evidence)

 

[TrashcanDan]

Shoulda used a .40.

Would have vaporized him instantly

 

[PaulR]

Are we certain this is NOT George Carlin?

 

[namedpipes]

74-year-old homeowner shoots 16-year-old in his Ohio house. ‘He didn’t belong here’

“I pumped two into him there. He went down the steps that way and I got him a third time I hope.”

www.yahoo.com

Homeowner shoots 16-year-old intruder on Johnston Street in Akron

A homeowner shot a teen who allegedly forced his way into his home on Johnston Street in Akron, police said.

www.news5cleveland.com

kid is getting released from the hospital. pops needs to do a caliber upgrade

Ohio, huh?

@Jose?

 

[namedpipes]

74-year-old homeowner shoots 16-year-old in his Ohio house. ‘He didn’t belong here’

“I pumped two into him there. He went down the steps that way and I got him a third time I hope.”

www.yahoo.com

Homeowner shoots 16-year-old intruder on Johnston Street in Akron

A homeowner shot a teen who allegedly forced his way into his home on Johnston Street in Akron, police said.

www.news5cleveland.com

kid is getting released from the hospital. pops needs to do a caliber upgrade

From the article:
The homeowner reported that the teen had forced himself into the home, police said, and “at some point during the ordeal, the homeowner confronted the teen and discharged his firearm, striking him multiple times.”

Police did not identify the teen or the homeowner.

Officers provided the teen with first aid until EMS arrived and took him to Akron Children’s Hospital, officials said, where he was in stable condition.

Authorities say the homeowner was not injured.

Lowgher told WEWS he shot the teen as he was heading to the basement.


If the po-po didn't dox him, who told the media?

 

[SpaceCritter]

Guy needs to stop talking about shooting the kid as he ran away...

FIFY.

One of the guys who was a regular at Ron's Kuntao seminars was an attorney specializing in self-defense. He gave a talk at a local rod&gun club.

One of his slides was simply:

SHUT.
THE.
f***.
UP.​

 

[LLF]

Guy needs to stop talking about shooting the kid as he ran away...

In the words of the famous Bernie Goetz "you don't look so bad here's another". Bernie got jammed up because he was a white guy who shot 4 black kids who tried to rob him but that quote really screwed him.

 

[Hoover]

From the article:
The homeowner reported that the teen had forced himself into the home, police said, and “at some point during the ordeal, the homeowner confronted the teen and discharged his firearm, striking him multiple times.”

Police did not identify the teen or the homeowner.

Officers provided the teen with first aid until EMS arrived and took him to Akron Children’s Hospital, officials said, where he was in stable condition.

Authorities say the homeowner was not injured.

Lowgher told WEWS he shot the teen as he was heading to the basement.


If the po-po didn't dox him, who told the media?

They looked up the owner of the property, all that information is public and very easy to fine.

 

[Hoover]

In the words of the famous Bernie Goetz "you don't look so bad here's another". Bernie got jammed up because he was a white guy who shot 4 black kids who tried to rob him but that quote really screwed him.

Bernie got jammed up because he lived in NYC and they have insane gun laws. He was acquitted of the attempted murder, etc charges but found guilty of the illegal possession of a gun.

If a similar case happened in Massachusetts and they didn’t have the government permission slip, they’re going to be found guilty. It’s basically a no win situation in a self defense case. Your lawyer will argue to the jury, yes you shot (there’s no who done it) but you were legally justified to use deadly force because your life was in danger. By doing this, you’re admitting to possession of the gun which will get you convicted of that in the MA, NYC, NJ type places.

 

[LLF]

Bernie got jammed up because he lived in NYC and they have insane gun laws. He was acquitted of the attempted murder, etc charges but found guilty of the illegal possession of a gun.

The criminal trial went largely in Goetz's favor. Yes, he was convicted of illegal possession of an unlicensed gun, for which he got a 6 month sentence, a period of probation (later changed to 1 year in prison no probation), community service and a $5K fine.

He got royally screwed on the civil trial winding up with a $43 million judgment against him. The alleged "you don't look so bad" was a key argument for the plaintiff.

 

[Road_Clam]

Listen carefully. The only comment that needs to be said is

"I feared for my life".

Then ONLY speak to your lawyer.

 

[safetyfirst2125]

Listen carefully. The only comment that needs to be said is

"I feared for my life".

Then ONLY speak to your lawyer.

Always. Although in Ohio, see post #11.

 

[426wedge]

The kid probably had a funny name

 

[enbloc]

I hope the kid was "scared straight" and tells all his friends...

 

[556USER]

Good for the shooter, but I still keep wondering if I could get a round through that ear ring with the Bullseye pistol? Probably burn the earlobe some.

 

[AHM]

screen name?

"Lo-Cal". (Not to be confused with Local).

 

[Wooderson]

Not the worst neighborhood in Akron, but it abuts Firestone Park, which ain't exactly a nice place.

Growing up in the 44312, I can't see him getting charged for a bad shoot, only bad accuracy.

 

[namedpipes]

screen name?

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@Luger? (Play on last name, apologies if there is a real user here by that name)

 

[AHM]

@Luger? (Play on last name, apologies if there is a real user here by that name)

There isn't, at least not so active that the system recognizes it.
But you could always go for the perennial NES favorite @Lugar...

 

[BlackwaterFence]

Too bad the kid survived