A P22 and a PM9

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My daughter and I went to the range on Saturday.
She took her new P22 and I took my new PM9.
Both guns had been field stripped, cleaned and lubed.
All shooting was done at 10 yards.

The P22 is, well, a P22 -- a piece of plastic that throws .22 down-range.
It's lightweight, comfortable to hold, and it's hard to be confident that it'll hold together.

However, it did.

We shot CCI sub-sonic, Federal blue box bulk, CCI Mini-Mag, and Remington Viper.
Everything shot well except the Viper, which stove-piped about once per magazine.
We didn't even try the Velocitor.

The P22 takedown was OK, but was a real pain to reassemble.
The recoil spring was particularly difficult to manage.
I think I'll have to read the manual next time.


The PM9 is a small precision machine. The fit and finish are very good.
The MA version is only offered in 2-tone, with a LCI and external safety, both of which were easily ignored.
There is no magazine disconnect.
I would guess that the trigger pull was about 7 pounds and was fairly long, but broke cleanly and had very little over-travel.
With the 6 round magazine, my pinky ended up underneath, but it felt OK.
The 7 round magazine, with a pinky rest, was actually less comfortable.

I shot WWB 115gr FMJ and WWB 147gr HP.
Both cycled without a problem. There were no feed issues as has been experienced by others with with this gun.

However, the recoil was something else.
At less than a pound empty, there is just not much mass for that equal and opposite reaction.
After 4 or 5 6-round magazines, my hand needed a rest.
The very short sight radius will also take some getting used-to.
I had to fire some rounds from the Ruger just to prove to myself that I could still hit the black.

The PM9 was hard both to disassemble and to reassemble.
In both cases a mark on the slide has to be aligned with a mark on the frame before the slide stop can be removed or replaced.
This is a three hand task: one to hold the frame, one to hold the slide, and one to hold the slide stop.
I used the chopstick-in-the-teeth method to wedge the action open with the marks aligned.
This required several tries before the positioning was correct.
A large part of the problem is that the recoil spring is very strong. It has to be in order to control that lightweight slide.
I plan to clean and lube it frequently during break-in, so I should soon be better at take-down.


Bottom line:

I expected reliability issues with the P22, but once we stopped using the hot ammo, everything (~100 rounds) cycled correctly.
My daughter enjoyed it.

The PM9 didn't have a single failure (~60 rounds)
The recoil was an unpleasant surprise. Since the gun was chosen for its size, it shouldn't have been.
Maybe I'll get some gloves with padded palms.
Or maybe I'll just get a P22 to practice with.
 
Nice range report rlee,

I too found that the texture on the PM9 grips is a little "aggressive". After 50 rounds I had little red indentations up my palm, as you probably did too. You may want to look into getting a Talon stick on grip for that little gun, it really makes a difference and is not at all expensive. Looks cooler than gloves too [wink]

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I too found that the texture on the PM9 grips is a little "aggressive". After 50 rounds I had little red indentations up my palm, as you probably did too. You may want to look into getting a Talon stick on grip for that little gun, it really makes a difference and is not at all expensive. Looks cooler than gloves too [wink]

Good suggestion.
Which version (textured or rubber) do you have?
Does it affect draw from a pocket carry?
 
...The P22 takedown was OK, but was a real pain to reassemble. The recoil spring was particularly difficult to manage.
I think I'll have to read the manual next time.

It should have come with a little plastic dowel pointed at one end that you use to reassemble--see instructions. Without that it is a bitch.

FYI, I cleaned my P22 of all oil and only use "dry lube" now. Seems to work much better for me.
 
It should have come with a little plastic dowel pointed at one end that you use to reassemble--see instructions. Without that it is a bitch.
FYI, I cleaned my P22 of all oil and only use "dry lube" now. Seems to work much better for me.

Yeah. I ended up using that dowel but was too fumble-fingered to keep the spring aligned easily. Eventually got it.
My daughter said she'd actually read the manual and give it a try. [laugh]

Were you having problems before you switched to dry lube?
 
Yeah. I ended up using that dowel but was too fumble-fingered to keep the spring aligned easily. Eventually got it.
My daughter said she'd actually read the manual and give it a try. [laugh]

Were you having problems before you switched to dry lube?

It was working okay but then once I cleaned it and left it a little too much solvent or oil behind and it started jamming. So I stripped it and cleaned it dry then sprayed on the dry lube. I do the same with my Ruger 10/22. It's actually a lot easier--not as messy and easier to clean next time around.
 
For the PM9, try the Hogue slip-on grip. Makes a big difference to me in perceived recoil.
 
rlee,

That's the rubber version, it really doesn't feel very rubbery, actually kind of rough but not sandpaper rough. I think the sore hand problem came more from the fact that I had the death grip on the gun than the actual recoil. I relaxed my grip and went full on thumbs forward and that seemed to help. I don't pocket carry but I don't think it would interfere, the grips don't seem to grab clothing the way the "squishy" rubber grips do. Interestingly enough the PM9 fits almost perfectly in the Crossbreed Supertuck I got for my 1911! The super thin PJ Holster is also a great choice since you can slip it on with out messing around with your pants/belt...eliminates printing as well. The Pearce grip extension on the mag helps with recoil too, but it does tend to pinch the little finger.
 
How is the hogue grip for the PM9 does that get caught when pocket carrying? Some good tips needs clean my kahr again no issues thus far


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