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A ton of AR’s

There's plenty out there but they command big $$. I've been waiting to find one for a reasonable price just for the pleasure of having it shipped to my door.

There's at least 16,000 Colt SP1s that are currently C&R
 
Seen a few on Rock Island, they don't really go for any more than the other pre-ban ARs unless they are something special like a new in the box low serial number. Lots of other C&R stuff too that might surprise some.
 
This has been the case for several years already, I think they first started making SP1s in 1964 or 65.

I have a 71 or 72 SP1 and beyond the fact that it's a nice clean example there is nothing special about it.

Worth noting, a C&R needs to be in it's "original configuration", so you can't slap a modern upper on an old SP1 lower and inbound it as a C&R.

Besides, MA FFLs will already inbound pre-ban rifles.....so
 
Makes it more tempting to have a C&R. Only reason I have not is all the C&R eligible stuff I already have- seems like a way to get tripped up if I have a ton of C&R not in the book and only a couple in it.
 
sometimes you need to write this stuff down if you're from massachusetts...

> c&r eligible
> fed pre-ban
> mass. pre 1st ban
> Mass. pre healy ban

am i forgetting one or 2 pre-bans somewhere?
 
greencobra said:
sometimes you need to write this stuff down if you're from massachusetts...

> c&r eligible
> fed pre-ban
> mass. pre 1st ban
> Mass. pre healy ban

am i forgetting one or 2 pre-bans somewhere?
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> c&r eligible - Federal, so even the guys who can have shitty psa uppers shipped to their doors follow this one.
> fed pre-ban - 1994
> mass. pre 1st ban - 1994
> Mass. pre healy ban - Wut
 
dw617 said:
Worth noting, a C&R needs to be in it's "original configuration", so you can't slap a modern upper on an old SP1 lower and inbound it as a C&R.
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Actually you could have a modern rifle upper on it because that doesn't change its configuration as a rifle. But you couldn't for instance make it an SBR upper or change the stock to a telescoping/folding style if it came with a standard A2 style and have it be C&R eligible.

Its like with a Garand, you can put another Garand stock on it whether new/used/synthetic but you couldn't put some kind of tacticool stock and have it still C&R eligible. You could put a new Criterion barrel on it and still C&R.

Its original configuration, not original equipment.
 
Broccoli Iglesias said:
I thought guns didn't automatically become C&R eligible if they are 50 years old.

Plenty of 50 year old guns you can't buy with a C&R.
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It's the opposite, sort of.

Curios & Relics | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

A regulation implementing federal firearms laws, 27 CFR § 478.11, defines curio or relic (C&R) firearms as those which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons.
www.atf.gov www.atf.gov

By default, 50 years becomes C&R.

Firearms automatically attain C&R status when they are 50 years old. Any firearm that is at least 50 years old, and in its original configuration, would qualify as a C&R firearm. It is not necessary for such firearms to be listed in ATF's C&R list. Therefore, ATF does not generally list firearms in the C&R publication by virtue of their age.

There is also a list which allows certain guns to be classified as C&R even it not 50 years old yet.

A good example is the Walther P1.

Walther, post World War II production Model P38- and P1-type semiautomatic pistols made for or issued to a military force, police agency, or other government agency or entity

Like JPM says some vendors won't recognize the C&R.
 
There are also some I've come across that think its ONLY the items in the list that are C&R and you have to explain to them the list is not comprehensive and point them to the actual law that its 50 or more years period.
 

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