yeah using 1200fps + shells but this is just a static test to make sure it cycles. Its just weird that its needing me to depress the button on the shell elevator each time to pull up a new round.
I wont even get into the fact that some manufacturers (like RIO) have a roll crimp thats about 3mm longer and keeps me from loading the 5th shell. Could trim the fingers inside the end cap 15mm but the spring then becomes the limit it coil binds before that. Maybe IWI has some update for this?
as far as the law, I did read through that and I dont feel the TS-12 applies since this isnt a revolving -cylinder- magazine like some firearms. Its 5 rounds per tube with a reload which satisfies the MA legal requirement
Please quote me the relevant MGL for the "MA legal requirement" you reference.
I will offer you the following references
MGL 140 121
“Large capacity feeding device”, (i) a
fixed or detachable
magazine, box, drum, feed strip
or similar device capable of accepting, or that can be readily converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition or
more than five shotgun shells; or (ii) a large capacity ammunition feeding device as defined in the federal Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(31) as appearing in such section on September 13, 1994. The term “large capacity feeding device” shall not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber ammunition.
The bolding is mine. Read it with the bolded language. "a fixed magazine or similar device capable of accepting more than five shotgun shells". Nothing here mentions manual rotation or mechanism. The TS-12 feeding device is a single formed piece of plastic that holds 15 rounds. It is formed into the shape of 3 5rd tubes, but it is a single piece of plastic that holds 15 rounds. That meets the language above. It is a large capacity feeding device. Possession of this is a felony per
MGL 140 131M
MGL 140 121 also defines
''Assault weapon'',
shall have the same meaning as a semiautomatic assault weapon as defined in the federal Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(30) as appearing in such section on September 13, 1994, and shall include, but not be limited to, any of the weapons, or copies or duplicates of the weapons, of any caliber, known as: (i) Avtomat Kalashnikov (AK) (all models); (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC–70); (iv) Colt AR–15; (v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR and FNC; (vi) SWD M–10, M–11, M–11/9 and M–12; (vi) Steyr AUG; (vii) INTRATEC TEC–9, TEC–DC9 and TEC–22; and (viii) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as, or similar to, the Street Sweeper and Striker 12; provided, however, that the term assault weapon shall not include: (i) any of the weapons, or replicas or duplicates of such weapons, specified in appendix A to 18 U.S.C. section 922 as appearing in such appendix on September 13, 1994, as such weapons were manufactured on October 1, 1993; (ii) any weapon that is operated by manual bolt, pump, lever or slide action; (iii) any weapon that has been rendered permanently inoperable or otherwise rendered permanently unable to be designated a semiautomatic assault weapon; (iv) any weapon that was manufactured prior to the year 1899; (v) any weapon that is an antique or relic, theatrical prop or other weapon that is not capable of firing a projectile and which is not intended for use as a functional weapon and cannot be readily modified through a combination of available parts into an operable assault weapon; (vi) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; or (vii) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine."
So we go and look at USC 921(a)(30) as it existed on September 13, 1994
(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of—
- (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
- (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
- (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
- (iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.
So we have already determined you have a capacity in excess of 5 rounds as it holds 15 rounds. The law does not talk about mechanism, just what is the capacity. 15 rounds. So it has two features and therefore is an assault weapon. Again under MGL 140 131M this is a felony.
If you don't like my logic, I recommend you consult a lawyer.
@nstassel is who I would recommend but there are some other reasonable choices out there.
Don't apply wishful thinking or results based logic. This is very simple. Your reading is overly complex and introduces a concept about manually switching tubes that is nowhere in the statues. I know many shops that will sell them. I also know people that continue to think that an SBR is not subject to the AWB...
If you got the opinion at the Littleton Mill I am likely the source. This is not even close to being grey but a black and white issue. People's willingness to convolute logic to try and convince themselves that something is legal (should be, but welcome to MA). astounds me.
i read about your assessment later after that, i was thinking about getting it last year fall and asked around my area shops, no one would do it. but only 2 people gave the descriptive enough explanation.
