Anyone own an Ultralite 50 or SHF-50 upper?

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I've been tossing around the idea of picking up a budget 50BMG upper for a while. I see that the Ultralite design ($1800 for the 22") has changed to make it free-floated. I don't think the SHF-50 single-shot ($1450) is free floated, but they do make a nice looking magazine-fed version.

Any thoughts?
 
Gadsden said:
I've been threatening to do this too, but can't justify it yet (no place to shoot it, cost a ton to feed it, scope it, reload for it, etc). Any persuasion (other than "just to own a .50BMG) is welcome.
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Because there's always the chance that a legislator will say, "There's no reason a private citizen should have such a high-powered, man-slaughtering, assault-style, military-grade gun," to a chorus of cheers from other legislators...
 
I don't have a .50 upper for my M16 but I do have a Serbu .50 single shot rifle. If you're willing to spend $1800.00 for an upper,why not look at the Serbu for not much more. One reason for getting a rifle instead of an upper is to get the extra weight. When that thing goes off, you want all the weight you can get.If you don't want to reload you can still get ammo for about 3 bucks a round. There is nothing like the power and muzzle blast of a .50. If you shoot one you won't soon forget it and neither will the people standing next to you.
 
The magazine-fed .50 upper from SHF looks pretty damned mean as well.

And I could get a Serbu (and almost did at one time) but the extra few hundred bucks is a scope, bipod, and some ammo.
 
gerrycaruso said:
I don't have a .50 upper for my M16 but I do have a Serbu .50 single shot rifle. If you're willing to spend $1800.00 for an upper,why not look at the Serbu for not much more. One reason for getting a rifle instead of an upper is to get the extra weight. When that thing goes off, you want all the weight you can get.If you don't want to reload you can still get ammo for about 3 bucks a round. There is nothing like the power and muzzle blast of a .50. If you shoot one you won't soon forget it and neither will the people standing next to you.
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You are not helping, damnit! [smile]
 
I emailed Ultralight about making me a 14" single shot upper to be used on one of my pistol lowers and they told me to pound sand. They were afraid I'd put video of myself shooting it on youtube, and bring them some unwanted attention. Meanwhile, there's video of one of their employees on their site shooting one of their rifles like a pistol to demonstrate how effective their brake is. [rolleyes]
 
Uncle Fester said:
I emailed Ultralight about making me a 14" single shot upper to be used on one of my pistol lowers and they told me to pound sand. They were afraid I'd put video of myself shooting it on youtube, and bring them some unwanted attention. Meanwhile, there's video of one of their employees on their site shooting one of their rifles like a pistol to demonstrate how effective their brake is. [rolleyes]
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Damn.. they are ruining all your fun!
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Well it looks like I might have been mistaken. I was going to post my email and response from them, but it appears to have been UltraMag, not Ultralite that told me they wouldn't do it. I might have just found another candidate for the manufacture of my .50BMG pistol! [party]
 
Here it is:
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Uncle Fester said:
I emailed Ultralight about making me a 14" single shot upper to be used on one of my pistol lowers and they told me to pound sand. They were afraid I'd put video of myself shooting it on youtube, and bring them some unwanted attention. Meanwhile, there's video of one of their employees on their site shooting one of their rifles like a pistol to demonstrate how effective their brake is. [rolleyes]
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One thing though.. I wonder if having that made would be a VERY bad idea. Keep in mind .308 and 7.62x39 ammo was ruled "pistol ammunition" by the BATFE because of prototype pistols in said calibers being displayed for the SHOT show several years back (according to Boston's Gun Bible). I would think that if said pistol upper was made, technically 50BMG could get thrown under "handgun rounds", making 50BMG AP/API rounds verbotten by many states as well as for import...
 
Gadsden said:
One thing though.. I wonder if having that made would be a VERY bad idea. Keep in mind .308 and 7.62x39 ammo was ruled "pistol ammunition" by the BATFE because of prototype pistols in said calibers being displayed for the SHOT show several years back (according to Boston's Gun Bible). I would think that if said pistol upper was made, technically 50BMG could get thrown under "handgun rounds", making 50BMG AP/API rounds verbotten by many states as well as for import...
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That's good to know. I was really serious about having one of these made for about 5 minutes. I was curious about it, so I sent them an email. When they said they wouldn't do it, I was bound and determined to have one made (being told "no" is one hell of a motivator for me). The more I thought about it, the more I realized I didn't want to drop almost 2 G's on something that I'd probably only shoot once.
 
Gadsden is right.

On Dean Speir's site (thegunzone.com ) this is covered in a graphic detail.

Basically, the douchebags at Olympic arms made the OA-93 pistol chambered in 7.62 x 39.

Then BATFE went "BUH! GUH! WUH! PISTOL THAT FIRES 7.62 x 39 OMFG what should we do oh now we gonna getta banna all the chinese steel core ammunition cause its armor piercing bweeee!" Then WHAM- no more cheap 7.62 x 39. Gone. No more imports. An entire class of ammunition, banned from import, overnight.

Numerous industry people WARNED Olympic arms about the obvious repercussions of their firearm... (that it would trigger an ammo import ban on 7.62 x 39) but Olympic ignored them and showed the thing at SHOT, BATFE smelled it, and that's all she wrote. Now, from what I've been told... Olympic never actually sold one of these things, but BATFE considered it to be a solicitation at that point of an actual product, so that was enough to irritate them.

This is very similar to the reason why, despite obvious legality, nobody is going to sell a Saiga with a 20 round drum mag
hanging out the bottom of it, at least not as a package. They don't want the whole thing to get administratively turned into an NFA DD classification- because of the dumb sporting purposes clause, another hidden danger.

-Mike
 
Uncle Fester said:
That's good to know. I was really serious about having one of these made for about 5 minutes. I was curious about it, so I sent them an email. When they said they wouldn't do it, I was bound and determined to have one made (being told "no" is one hell of a motivator for me). The more I thought about it, the more I realized I didn't want to drop almost 2 G's on something that I'd probably only shoot once.
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Heh.. yup, you don't want to be known as "that guy" whom ruined the fun for everyone else! [wink]
 
Uncle Fester said:
Here I am giving them an opportunity to be revolutionary, and they're telling me no because they're afraid. What a bunch of pansies. [laugh]
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As soon as somebody produces a "pistol" upper for .50BMG - it instantly classifies that caliber as a pistol round.

There are all sorts of legal ramifications to this - AP ammo (armor piercing) for instance instantly becomes illegal to own for civilians.

This is why you cannot get .223 and .308 AP ammo for civilians - because some dimwit produced a pistol in those calibers. It is why 30.06 AP is still legal for civilians to own - because nobody (yet) has produced a pistol in that caliber.
 
vellnueve said:
I've been tossing around the idea of picking up a budget 50BMG upper for a while. I see that the Ultralite design ($1800 for the 22") has changed to make it free-floated. I don't think the SHF-50 single-shot ($1450) is free floated, but they do make a nice looking magazine-fed version.

Any thoughts?
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I saw an ad recently while reading thru a friend's Shotgun News for an AR upper in .50BMG - and that has gotten me thinking along these lines too.

Once I get over the "damn I want one" rush, the first thing that comes to mind is: where could I shoot the thing?

What (in general) are the rules at most clubs for rifles in this caliber? I don't recall ever seeing anything in particular at the clubs I have been to, but then again I may not have been paying close attention because I don't have anything in that caliber.
 
calsdad said:
As soon as somebody produces a "pistol" upper for .50BMG - it instantly classifies that caliber as a pistol round.

There are all sorts of legal ramifications to this - AP ammo (armor piercing) for instance instantly becomes illegal to own for civilians.

This is why you cannot get .223 and .308 AP ammo for civilians - because some dimwit produced a pistol in those calibers. It is why 30.06 AP is still legal for civilians to own - because nobody (yet) has produced a pistol in that caliber.
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Do the Encore and Contender not count? Is it pistol as in autoloader, or pistol as in another term for handgun?
 

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