A pmag and a bunch of ammo links are not the same thing. I can see a good lawyer slaying the LCAFD BS there. There won't be an AWB BS because the nostrum of pre/post ban on links is 110% completely ****ing stupid land.
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Arrest in Watertown for fake ammo
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A pmag and a bunch of ammo links are not the same thing. I can see a good lawyer slaying the LCAFD BS there. There won't be an AWB BS because the nostrum of pre/post ban on links is 110% completely ****ing stupid land.
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Mike, when you link them together they are the same thing. IIRC there was a BATF letter about that back during the Fed Ban . . . unless they were pre-ban links you couldn't legally link more than 10 together. Ridiculous? Of course, but what do you expect when morons pass laws with no understanding of what they are doing!
A hammer is a dangerous weapon per MGL, if used as such. Can you site the MGL that makes jewelry and bracelets into weapons? Just trying to figure out what makeup/rings I can wear into Boston without goons giving me a hard time.
lancecolonel
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charges dropped.
It's in C. 269 S. 10 as "other weapons". Spiked gloves/bracelets would be treated by LE the same as brass knuckles.
NH still has laws that protect folks from puss!3s like these in Boston.
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LE? Oh, you mean the goons that can't tell jewelry from valid weaponry? Got it....
The LCFD definition if anyone is interested...
MA law...
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section121
Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(31)
The catch is proving they're pre-ban links.
There was no requirement to mark individual links, but there was a requirement to mark the packaging.
No packaging... no evidence of pre-ban/post-ban status.
When the ban was in effect, vendors would get around the no more than 10 linked rounds BS by breaking a full belt up into 10 round 'mini' belts.
What the buyer did with them later (link them all back together), was his or her business... proceed at your own peril.
MA law...
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section121
Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(31)
The catch is proving they're pre-ban links.
There was no requirement to mark individual links, but there was a requirement to mark the packaging.
No packaging... no evidence of pre-ban/post-ban status.
When the ban was in effect, vendors would get around the no more than 10 linked rounds BS by breaking a full belt up into 10 round 'mini' belts.
What the buyer did with them later (link them all back together), was his or her business... proceed at your own peril.
There is no requirement for the accused to do so. They are not getting him on a postban LCAFD here. About the best they are going to get is "LCAFD without a license" which is 10 times easier to convict on, with a penalty that is equally as bad.
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MachineHead
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i don't know what you're imagining. i imagine he was being fashionable in his own sense and nothing else.
PS> i hope someone here knows who that is.
I downloaded some of his side project stuff a while back. I heard it somewhere in the early
90's. View attachment 141832
Many pre-ban links that I've looked at had date codes on them, probably a MIL requirement going way back.
inerlogic
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He's gay, the laws don't apply to him.....
guess i'll be drilling and pop riveting my dummy M-60 ammo belt.... in case i get an M-60.....
PS> i hope someone here knows who that is.
guess i'll be drilling and pop riveting my dummy M-60 ammo belt.... in case i get an M-60.....
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Linky, please.
i don't know what you're imagining. i imagine he was being fashionable in his own sense and nothing else.
PS> i hope someone here knows who that is.
While I think he should be arrested for a fashion crime, I don't think he should be arrested for the ammunition...
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Yeah, I am highly surprised the charges were dropped this quickly.
Who is he connected to??
Not 100% true. Remember that the standard size AR magazine holds 30 rounds of 5.56, however it holds 10 rounds of .50 Beowulf ammo. Other than a follower, the two magazines are the same.
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Either that or the ADA in charge of the case correctly realized this was how the state will lose these laws.
inerlogic
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did they show photos of the actual belt?
if it was fake plastic ammo and fake plastic links, the possession charge would be BS..... but if this guy had real brass, lead and steel (components and LCFD) without a license, then i call bullshit and am going to go buy some post ban AR and glock mags....
and call out companies that won't ship components to me.....
"we need more laws! We need more laws!" they don't enforce the f****** laws we have.....
if it was fake plastic ammo and fake plastic links, the possession charge would be BS..... but if this guy had real brass, lead and steel (components and LCFD) without a license, then i call bullshit and am going to go buy some post ban AR and glock mags....
and call out companies that won't ship components to me.....
"we need more laws! We need more laws!" they don't enforce the f****** laws we have.....
It would have been fun to be on the call from the ADA to the police informing them that the charges were dropped. I can only imagine the legal niceties that were used which meant, in essence, "Dude, seriously?"
chris_1001
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i don't know what you're imagining. i imagine he was being fashionable in his own sense and nothing else.
PS> i hope someone here knows who that is.
Im MA he'd be Breaking the law, breaking the law....
inerlogic
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never mind wearing a goatee without a license......
i wrote the state house to ask how to apply for one....
they told me that there was no licensing authority and that law wasn't enforced.
i asked how i could go about being appointed as the licensing authority... or alternately if they could send me a list of other laws they weren't enforcing....
never heard back.....
Glockster30
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The key argument here appears to be that the replica ammo could not be made or altered for intended use in a firearm. I see that as being no different than carrying a squirt gun, although you are still at risk of being shot.
Apparently, the spiked gloves and other scary items were of no concern either.
Apparently, the spiked gloves and other scary items were of no concern either.
The arrest will be there unless expunged. Even then, he'd still need to check the box he was arrested. Nice system.
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The key argument here appears to be that the replica ammo could not be made or altered for intended use in a firearm. I see that as being no different than carrying a squirt gun, although you are still at risk of being shot.
Apparently, the spiked gloves and other scary items were of no concern either.
And the cops who arrested him could not figure this out?
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