ATTENTION: All Hopkinton MA residents - Anti Gun Range Vote May 1st

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MARK MAY 1st ON YOUR CALENDAR If YOU ARE A HOPKINTON RESIDENT - HSA NEEDS YOUR VOTE AT TOWN MEETING - MIDDLE SCHOOL - 730PM. This vote is in regards to a town warrant which wants you to shoot from within a building.

This is such bullshite. If your a resident of Hopkinton you need to show up and vote. They are looking to close down all outside ranges in the town due to noise. It’s against current law but it will cost the clubs a good amount of money in legal fees to fight it.
 
Boost. I hope every freedom loving Hopkinton resident sees this and attends.

In reality, since the town meeting article is in direct contravention of MGL 214 SS 7B, it will cost the TOWN OF HOPKINTON a bunch of money if enough stupid sheep foolishly vote for this on the first.

If you are a resident of Hopkinton, let your neighbors know that your/their tax dollars will be thrown down the toilet if this does not get properly voted down.
 
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I assume the impacted clubs plan on mobilizing members? Haven’t seen anything from SR&G yet on the May 1st mtg.
 
Rat187 said:
Disbelief here…One club club can’t fight tide alone, that said we should have been playing the long game 25 years ago and the NRA and gun related manufacturers funding BS legal challenges like this.
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No matter what the law does to protect us, there is nothing to prevent the other side (on any issue) from filing a law that violates the law established by a higher authority. The only teeth any law has is the enforcement behind it - and with laws like the is it unfortunate but necessary for NGOs to step in, demand the law be followed, and in the extreme even fun enforcement actions.

One only need look to the NY and NJ laws that obviously violate Bruen, or the RI AG's opinion it may use "need based" criteria since "shall issue" town permits exist (doubly dubious since town permits exclude open carry) to see the need for court based enforcement. Even worse is the runaround the liability protection for manufacturers with sometimes successful arguments like "we can't sue them on strict liability, but the law did not say we could not sue them for their advertising".

It has only been in recent decades that the NRA recognize carry by unimportant people to be an issue. At one point (perhaps even today) any NRA competition using humanoid targets was limited to LEO only.

It's that pesky "eternal vigilance" thing.

The Hopkinton law should and probably will disappear, but it is important for the town to know there is an adversary willing to bring the fight to court if necessary. Anyone who reads the actual town meeting warrant will see what an amateurish job the proponent has done of writing the proposed town law.
 
Adding - it is in everyone best interest that this gets beat. Even if you can't vote but can show up for support, go.

This sh*t spreads. If it passes in Hopkinton, it will move to the next town over.
 
Rob Boudrie said:
Hopefully the town counsel will advise that this action will not withstand a legal challenge and the only thing it will accomplish is exposing the town to litigation it will lose.
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You would hope, but they likely have an outside firm as town counsel who gets paid hourly and his advice at town meeting will be, “Um, it may violate state law, but it’s possible we could prevail if it were challenged in court.” He’ll sit down and the town meeting will vote it in while he’s scrolling through the Porsche configurator on his phone.
 
free said:
Not so fast. The moderator can always entertain a motion, and a second, to take up any article at any time in any order.
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In spring town meetings where the budgets are usually voted on, town meeting can’t vote on the financial articles until a date certain, so town meeting may vote on the non-financial articles first before voting on the budget articles. I don’t know for sure the rule on this.
 
TJ4 said:
In spring town meetings where the budgets are usually voted on, town meeting can’t vote on the financial articles until a date certain, so town meeting may vote on the non-financial articles first before voting on the budget articles. I don’t know for sure the rule on this.
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For each Town Meeting a warrant is published with the articles and their order, as decided by the Select Board. Usually by custom a certain order is followed (consent articles, prior years bills, the budget, zoning articles, citizen's petitions, etc) , but the order can be changed at the Town Meeting.
 
Rockrivr1 said:
The board can vote to pass over the articles when it’s turn comes up and pend it for later consideration. Happens more often then people would think.
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The Town Meeting attendees vote, not "the board." Don't forget - the Town Meeting, when convened, is the legislative body of the Town.
 
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Tonight is the night!!! Please attend this town meeting in Hopkinton to make your voices heard. Especially if you are a town resident and can vote!!!
 
f*** them. f*** them all. we have been perfect tenants and have been abiding by all requirements the town has imposed on us over the years.

glad it is over. until the next time. we will be ready.
 
With excellent help and speakers from Woodville, Southboro R&G, and HopkintonSC , the warrant as presented, was soundly defeated.
I arrived home after the Town Meeting to receive an email complaining of firearms noise. The person wondered if we could use silencers - I rather enjoyed telling the person that the Commonwealth prohibited the use of silencers.
These situations will continue - support your Comm2A, Second Amendment Foundation, and GOAL. Maintain enough money in your club treasury for ever mounting legal fees. And finally, when if the end comes for your club - specify sale only for Chapter 40B.
El Prez
Bob
 
I was there, there were great arguments supporting the gun range, a lot of blame put on realtors who sold properties near the range without informing the new owners of it. Those in favor had weak arguments, there were excellent well organized arguments made for keeping the range as is. Funny thing is about 1/2 the crowd left right after the vote, so most people were there to support that one decision.
 
Rockrivr1 said:
MARK MAY 1st ON YOUR CALENDAR If YOU ARE A HOPKINTON RESIDENT - HSA NEEDS YOUR VOTE AT TOWN MEETING - MIDDLE SCHOOL - 730PM. This vote is in regards to a town warrant which wants you to shoot from within a building.

This is such bullshite. If your a resident of Hopkinton you need to show up and vote. They are looking to close down all outside ranges in the town due to noise. It’s against current law but it will cost the clubs a good amount of money in legal fees to fight it.
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How did this go? Do we know yet?
 

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