BB Gun Recommendation

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Can anybody recommend a decent BB rifle? I prefer something powered on air pressure as opposed to CO2. Purposes would be for small varmint/bird hunting in backyard and for blinking/recreation.

I tried searching the forum but I didn't pull up any hits.
 
too many choices, what's your budget? You can just go to walmart and pick one up cheap. There is no limit how upscale they can get. Cheapo with a cheapo scope will take care of chips.
 
I'm guessing $100. I could be persuaded to spend more, but I'm completely ignorant when it comes to anything related to airsoft, BB, pellet, etc.
 
I'm guessing $100. I could be persuaded to spend more, but I'm completely ignorant when it comes to anything related to airsoft, BB, pellet, etc.

well, for $75 you used to be able to get Chinese SKS trainer, fixed barrel, consistent pump that could take off matchheads from a good distance. For this price range you may be in cheaper, break barrel guns. You may consider spending a bit more and getting a good quality gun. Which one, I have no idea what's out there.

good airguns are very quiet (good for shooting from inside of the house) and with a scope or good eyesight will get rid of your pests.


here you go, $60: I had one, have one now, these are great and cheap:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=343717215
 
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save up for that glock 18 japanese model thing is sweet but I think it will set you back a couple hundrerd. LOL
 
I've got a Gamo Silent Cat that I use for target shooting in my backyard. I found the scope to be junk, wouldn't hold zero, but the fiber optic sights are very nice, and good enough for the effective range of the rifle.

I did the Charlie Da Tuna trigger upgrade, which made it a lot nicer to shoot.

Gamo Silent Cat Air Rifle : Amazon.com : Sports & Outdoors

I've got a couple of sets of spinner targets across my lawn on the tree line.
 
Thanks. I might just get a basic Daisy pneumatic-lever pump one for now. I think they're less than $50 at Wal-Mart. Maybe I'll snag a CO2 model later but I just need something for backyard critter control and plinking since .22LR is too precious to shoot now*.

*Never would I think that .22LR would fit this description!
 
I also have a Gamo, a bit older than mclina's, but it is very potent and accurate. I have always used bb guns but I have found that they just do not have the power anymore( unless it's a pump up pneumatic or the like) The Gamo is a break barrel cocking/loading rifle with great power and took care of my squirrel problem very easily. You should probably get the Silent Cat or Whisper models as it is louder than you would expect.
 
I too got a Silent Cat from Cabelas for only $80 or so. Get it in .22 for pest control, and it is quieter as it does not propel over the speed of sound. Was also much cheaper than the .177 for some reason.

Mods:

Leapers Bugbuster scope. $60
The factory one is junk, an this bolts up nicely to the factory mounts.

Charlie da Tuna trigger. ~$35
Huge upgrade in trigger control.

Fluff and Buff. Mostly free
Tear down gun and smooth all the parts, reassemble with proper lube. More consistent and quieter action. Much less spring noise.

All totaled, I've got about $190 into this gun.

At 25 meters (81 ft), I'm using the small 3" shoot-n-see targets on a cardboard box in front of a large mass of grass trimmings. Once I got used to the "Artillery Hold" my groups, when I do my job, are about half dollar size. Not bad at all.

Not saying you need to do all that stuff, but it did help a lot.
 
Pellet guns are tough to say what is good and what isn't. I personally don't like break barrels. I would get a side cocker if I where to get a springer. When it comes to Multi pumps I love the older crosmans. If I didn't just buy a K98 I would be all over this Crosman 1400 / 3rd variant : Air Rifles at GunBroker.com.
I like multi pumps for the just that reason. Rifled barrels are a must....no "bb" guns.
I also own a few older benjiman\sheridan 392s with the Williams peep sight. Great little guns. Pellet choice is also a factor. All my 22 pellet guns shoot their best with JSB brand round nose. The crosman premiers in the large cardboard. Ox work well for pest control as they used to be close to accuracy as the jsb but for less money.
As for 100$ I don't know its a crap shoot. I have always purchased my pellet guns used with bad seals cause people don't takecare of them. I had a few gamo guns in the past 10 years. They all have been blah. Only gamo I owned that shot well was older model full rifle size with nice wooden stock that was made in England. Good luck

Benjamin 392 pump air rifle. Air rifles - PyramydAir.com I do recommend the Williams peep sight for these as the fa tory sites sucked. You can get a scope mount pa lave also but I find the comb to low for comfortable shooting.
 
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Pellet guns are like anything else....you can get silly. Kinda like ruger 10/22s. yes barebones they function will shoot better than most people can shoot them BUT mods galour.
late 60s crosman 1400 slightly mod and tuned 8 pumps will push 700fps 5 pumps just under 600 with a 15gn JSB round nose 22cal.

I know you mentioned you would rather not get into CO2 or HPA, I had the same thoughts until I scored a Benjiman Discover used for short money and it turned into this. It took some fine tuning, pellet searching, and pressure curve figuring = 1/2" groups at 50 yards and minute of swinger at 75+ yards. Fun gun and takes things down fast. With the jumbo pellets(25 grain) it will drop a rabbit @ 35 yards in its tracks.


PS many older ones can be rebuilt pretty easily and there are more than a couple of places that can rebuild/parts. give me a PM for any questions.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/ and for even more numbing info
 
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Pellet guns are a crapshoot in that price range. They may require some TLC to start shooting accurately enough for pest control. You don't want a BB gun.

Plinking/target - look at AirVenturi Bronco designed by PyramydAir own Tom Gaylord. Well built and extremely accurate, just may not be enough oomph for hunting.

Here are some points to consider-

-. Power plant
If you are not proficient with spring powered air rifles I would suggest choosing one with a gas ram power plant. Crosman Nitro Piston is the one you'd want, Gamo's IGT produces massive recoil, although there are a couple of new Gamo rifles that mitigate that, none in your price range. Gas rams will be a bit more quiet than springers

Multi-pump pneumatics may fit the bill if you like a workout :) the cheapest and the most moddable option is Crosman 2289 aka the Bugout kit. Very accurate and just powerful enough to take down small pests. Anything larger than a squirrel will prove to be challenging though

- Scope/mounts
Virtually all rifles will include a scope that will not perform in this price range, save for a just few. Rifles with a dovetail mount will require a decent scope and mounts added and the stock one thrown away

- Trigger
Most rifles in this price range have absolutely terrible triggers. CharlieDaTuna triggers will help. Newer Gamo models include a Smooth Action Trigger that is decent, look for SAT designation

- backyard friendliness is key if you live in a densely populated area. Some rifles will have a sound dampening solution (Gamo Silent for example)

- most rifles will need a teardown and a cleaning/lube job out of the box to perform. Some will require replacing parts like seals (Crosman Nitro Venom comes to mind)

- rifle/pellet combination - people spend days and hundreds of pellets to find the right one for their rifle and practice, practice and practice. No rifle is the same when it comes to ammo.

Also, Pellets will have trajectories affected by their shape and weight (ballistic coefficient). Hunting precision will require quite some knowledge amd practice on holdover distances with a particular pellet and your scope

The worst part is there is so many models out there that don't really differ that much but it takes some knowledge to tell them apart :)

The Sub-$300 range is well populated but is a shot in the dark as to what exactly you will get out of your rifle. Most will be a branded Chinese import.

There are also Chinese imported rifles that go through the teardown/lube process before being sold, PM me for the link, I don't have it right now. I think the the site is called http://flyingdragonairrifles.org/

There is a great forum - GatewayToAirguns, check it out - loads of information and great friendly people
 
just one comment about cheap c02 airguns.. they are lousy for a "keep by the back door pest control" gun.
The co2 charge doesnt hold over long term, by the time you put in a fresh co2, your target is gone.

Be careful. Air guns can be just as addicting as firearms. BTDT
 
I have an RWS model 52, side lever .22 pellet gun. Very accurate, built like a tank, plenty of power. You can get em used for about $250 to $300 but well worth it. It's a REAL pellet gun.

Also used to have a Falcon Precharged Pneumatic in .22 That thing was a piece of art work. It would easily smash clay targets at 100 yards. Trigger like glass. Not cheap though.


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Last spring I needed something to take care of some pest birds constantly trying to nest, crapping everywhere, etc. I did NOT do any research. Looked at a couple under $100 at Walmart. Looked at a .177 pellet rifle (Crosman Optimus WITH scope) for 120 or 130. That works well.

I little noisy but I'm in a rural area where I can use real firearms. I believe there are super quiet pellet guns you can buy.

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I've got a Gamo Silent Cat that I use for target shooting in my backyard. I found the scope to be junk, wouldn't hold zero, but the fiber optic sights are very nice, and good enough for the effective range of the rifle. ...

Those Gamo's seem nice. I agree with sights over the scope. Do they have a well for BB's?


Thanks. I might just get a basic Daisy pneumatic-lever pump one for now. I think they're less than $50 at Wal-Mart. Maybe I'll snag a CO2 model later but I just need something for backyard critter control and plinking ...

Good thinking.


I too got a Silent Cat from Cabelas for only $80 or so. Get it in .22 for pest control, and it is quieter as it does not propel over the speed of sound. Was also much cheaper than the .177 for some reason.

Are these pellet only, or do they feed BB's from a holding chamber?


Pellet guns are ...

He asked about BB guns.


Pellet guns ...

Here are some points to consider-
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Multi-pump pneumatics may fit the bill ...

- Scope/mounts
Virtually all rifles will include a scope that will not perform in this price range, save for a just few. Rifles with a dovetail mount will require a decent scope and mounts added and the stock one thrown away
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- rifle/pellet combination - ...

Also, Pellets will have ...

Again, BB's.

However, I think you are in the right direction with the multi-pump. Better still, get a Red Rider. They ARE fun. Also, "air-guns" have reverse recoil, so need a special or at least heavier duty scope.
 
I don't think the OP specifically meant BBs. BB guns are not accurate enough for pest control, nor do they do enough damage to humanely take down animals. Pellet guns are the way to go
 
I don't think the OP specifically meant BBs. BB guns are not accurate enough for pest control, nor do they do enough damage to humanely take down animals. Pellet guns are the way to go

Correct on all counts.

Also in post number 3 the OP wrote: "....but I'm completely ignorant when it comes to anything related to airsoft, BB, pellet, etc." which to me suggests the OP might be interested in BB guns and other types.
 
I have a Crossman Quest that I bought for $100 about 5 years ago from K-Mart. Came with a cheap scope that holds zero just fine and fiberoptic sights that co- witness with the scope. 1000 ft/second and shoots .177 pellets, break barrel.

I have constantly knocked black birds out of trees 25-50 yards away. Dropped 3 this morning. The little bastards scoop poop out of their nests and drop it in my swimming pool. If they sit still long enough to shoulder the rifle, I can drop them.

My neighbor spent three times as much on a Gamo Whisper and has not had nearly as much success. I don't know if it is his rifle or that he just can't shoot.
 
This is is probably the most premium stuff out there in the sub-$300 range, got really good reviews and with a heavier 10gr pellet you should be able to keep it under the speed of sound. Powerful rifles generally do much better with heavy pellets

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Gamo_Whisper_Fusion_Air_Rifle_IGT/2986

Otherwise I would go for a Crosman Nitro Venom in .22 with a CDT trigger, a better scope, seals and a lube job. Will come out to the same amount though or more.
 
I don't think the OP specifically meant BBs. BB guns are not accurate enough for pest control, nor do they do enough damage to humanely take down animals. Pellet guns are the way to go

I was just going by what he said (see below).

Also, I have taken many pests with a spring loaded cheap equivalent to the red rider with leaf sight.


Can anybody recommend a decent BB rifle? ...
 
I had a Crossman 760 many years ago and it was good but I don't know what the quality of them now is.
 
He asked about BBs but all he described he would be best lead away from BB guns and at least a rifled pellet gun....
If he said he wanted cheap minute of tin can accuracy out to 20' I would recomend a red ryder. Heck you can see the trajectory out of those. I still love shooting my red ryder...
 
He asked about BBs but all he described he would be best lead away from BB guns and at least a rifled pellet gun....
If he said he wanted cheap minute of tin can accuracy out to 20' I would recomend a red ryder. Heck you can see the trajectory out of those. I still love shooting my red ryder...

Not all.

... Purposes would be for small varmint/bird hunting in backyard and for blinking/recreation. ...

Sounds like a red rider would satisfy the plinking/recreation needs just fine. I say for chipmunks and squirrels, it would do. Maybe not as well as a stronger pellet gun, but it would do. And YES, they ARE fun.

Mike?
 
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