BPD calling a 1911 an Assault Weapon?

[Lank]

Written to scare the leftist pussies that now make up 90% of bahstan

 

[Quantavious G]

If this was the CT legal forum, I'd say absolutely correct.

In 2013 the CT legislature passed PA13-3. The AWB portion of the bill reduced the number of allowable evil features on a handgun to zero. So if you have a threaded barrel on your handgun, it is an AW.

This means that a Ruger 22/45 Lite is an assault weapon.

As is a Ruger charger, with the mag ahead of the grip.

Its insanity, but its the law of the land in CT.

Though not MA.

yet

 

[whacko]

"The firearm had a threaded attachment capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer, and the magazine was attached outside of the pistol
grip."

umm... yeah...

What is the meaning of mag outside the grip?

All that report is missing is "high capacity" and "clip"

I guess this is one other example of how legally transporting something "legal" but interesting in this state can get your caught up or at least wreck your day

Add "high caliber" and they would have run the gambit on media bs gun reporting.

 

[Thirwell1216]

Well at least it wasn't full auto

Texas gunsmith Hyman Lebman was infamous for modifying 1911s to be capable of over 1000 rounds per minute. He would also attach a compensator, a foregrip from the Thompson 1921, and an 18 round extended magazine.
Models were also made in .38 Super which were capable of holding 22 rounds. Some of these guns had rifle stocks attached to them.
Lebman 1911s in both .38 Super and .45 ACP were found in the possession of Baby Face Nelson and John Dillinger.

 

[AHM]

Some cop was talking ragtime when that shit was written up.... either that or smoking some sort of "product" stolen from a perp....

thats "vegetable matter" to you!

Devils lettuce a.k.a. jazz cabbage.

 

[swatgig]

He's held without bail pending a dangerousness hearing, and his bail was revoked on a driving case in Woburn scheduled for trial in June 2021

 

[sieveboy]

I can only imagine the dejection and disappointment when BPD couldn’t add “fully loaded” to their laundry list of bullshit

 

[Rob Boudrie]

The armed career charge is mandatory 15 and they have to serve it if convicted of the gun charge and have three or more prior crimes of violence or drug distribution.

Unless, of course, if the charge is simply used as a tool to get a plea on other charges and not actually prosecuted.

 

[AHM]

No, they will run with all that spaghetti and if the perp has a public defender who is clueless about guns/gun laws, the guy will get convicted. If he's got a long rap sheet he might get a few months in stir. If he's pretty clean, he'll likely get a 5-10 yr sentence.

The armed career charge is mandatory 15 and they have to serve it if convicted of the gun charge and have three or more prior crimes of violence or drug distribution.

He's held without bail pending a dangerousness hearing, and his bail was revoked on a driving case in Woburn scheduled for trial in June 2021

Unless, of course, if the charge is simply used as a tool to get a plea on other charges and not actually prosecuted.

You guys all need to eat more carrots.
The answer is hiding in plain sight.

 

[GaryO]

all right now, you guys proved you're gun smart...pat on the head for all of you.

I'm no gun expert but I am curious why they labeled pot as a bag of "green vegetable matter ". Does that mean that I'm going to get jammed up for bringing raw spinach home from the grocery?

 

[robjax]

The suspect, Rocky Luis Ayala, was arrested and charged with Unlawful Possession of an Assault Weapon, Unlawful Possession of a Firearm, Unlawful Possession of a Loaded Firearm, Unlawful Possession of Ammunition, Firearm Violation with 3 Prior Violent/Drug Crimes, Possession with Intent to Distribute Class D-Subsequent Offense, Resisting Arrest, and Forged/Misuse RMV Document. Ayala was also issued MA Uniform Citation for above violations.

That's a lot of charges for just one gun.......does anyone else think this is excessive?

 

[AHM]

I'm no gun expert but I am curious why they labeled pot as a bag of "green vegetable matter ".

I'm not curious in the slightest.

Does that mean that I'm going to get jammed up for bringing raw spinach home from the grocery?

Stay away from cashews and you'll be good to go.

 

[nstassel]

Unless, of course, if the charge is simply used as a tool to get a plea on other charges and not actually prosecuted.

Not really likely. The usual deal is knock a level off maybe two to get to a 10 to 10 and a day or a little better 7-8 range. Depends on what his other convictions are. But at his level either the state or the feds are going to take a real bite unless he turns snitch.

 

[Drix]

Well at least it wasn't full auto

Texas gunsmith Hyman Lebman was infamous for modifying 1911s to be capable of over 1000 rounds per minute. He would also attach a compensator, a foregrip from the Thompson 1921, and an 18 round extended magazine.
Models were also made in .38 Super which were capable of holding 22 rounds. Some of these guns had rifle stocks attached to them.
Lebman 1911s in both .38 Super and .45 ACP were found in the possession of Baby Face Nelson and John Dillinger.

But does the flappy thing go up?

 

[snax]

Why wouldn't you just get a Tommy Gun?

 

[ReluctantDecoy]

Officers also recovered (7) medium plastic bags containing green vegetable matter believed to be marijuana, (12) small designer packages containing green vegetable matter believed to be marijuana, a digital scale, fanny pack and an open bottle of liquor.

Was the cop planning on eating it? Because normally you'd call it plant matter, but whatever I guess. Might as well toss that in the report next to the fore grip on a browning tilt action barrel.

 

[swatgig]

Officers also recovered (7) medium plastic bags containing green vegetable matter believed to be marijuana, (12) small designer packages containing green vegetable matter believed to be marijuana, a digital scale, fanny pack and an open bottle of liquor.

Was the cop planning on eating it? Because normally you'd call it plant matter, but whatever I guess. Might as well toss that in the report next to the fore grip on a browning tilt action barrel.

I think it's in the cop schoolbooks to call it vegetable matter. That's how all the police reports I've seen describe it.

Maybe they only have checkboxes for animal, vegetable, or mineral.

 

[LuvDog]

Well... the 1911 is more of a weapon of war than an AR-15. So....???

 

[fishgutzy]

Looks like a pile on charge. Shouldn't stick. But then MAAG has issued guidance that defies logic and the law.
Either way, just the felon possession charges should get him a weekend or 2 in prison, unless he turns out to be an illegal alien. Then he gets a pass and walked out the back door of the court house.

 

[fishgutzy]

Well... the 1911 is more of a weapon of war than an AR-15. So....???

An FNX45 Tactical could end up fitting the AW definition under MA law. The pic rail up front can accept a forward vertical grip, a "flash hider" could be threaded on. And BINGO, nearly life in prison for a white guy.

 

[SkeraMuninn]

Its insanity, but its the law of the land in CT.

I'm pretty sure by the letter of the law, most people are considered assault weapons

 

[swatgig]

Well... the 1911 is more of a weapon of war than an AR-15. So....???

Well, the AG claimed that a stun gun was not protected by the 2A because it's not usable as a weapon of war, around the same time she argued that an AR-15 isn't protected because it is usable as a weapon of war.

 

[GML]

The suspect, Rocky Luis Ayala, was arrested and charged with Unlawful Possession of an Assault Weapon, Unlawful Possession of a Firearm, Unlawful Possession of a Loaded Firearm, Unlawful Possession of Ammunition, Firearm Violation with 3 Prior Violent/Drug Crimes, Possession with Intent to Distribute Class D-Subsequent Offense, Resisting Arrest, and Forged/Misuse RMV Document. Ayala was also issued MA Uniform Citation for above violations.

That's a lot of charges for just one gun.......does anyone else think this is excessive?

Yep, file this one with the Department of Redundancy Department.

 

[Parker Schreiber]

Yup, throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.
Worst case scenario for the prosecution is “no, that’s not right” best case is “yup, extra killy=assault weapon” then...

This is just a charging document. Mr. Ayala was not arraigned when the BPD released this. Unless the cops cough up an extended magazine or prove the pistol was modified the charge will get dropped fairly quickly (The SW1911 is on the approved weapons list). Whether the BPD added the charge out of ignorance or out of spite that Mr. Ayala was in "contempt of cop" I won't speculate.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Please stop. I almost pee'd my pants over this.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Yep, file this one with the Department of Redundancy Department.

It's actually the "Department of Redundancy Department Department".

 

[KBCraig]

Probably stolen, pistol was too nice looking to be a thug gun.

If it was stolen from someone in Boston, they'll charge the victim with improper storage.

 

[Coyote33]

If it was stolen from someone in Boston, they'll charge the victim with improper storage.

That ought to be a crime! (Charging the victim.)

 

[ColdDayInHell]

*INTENSIFIES IN MAURA*

This dude must have family who wrote some MGLs.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVsFgWJWl4A

 

[GML]

It's actually the "Department of Redundancy Department Department".

Okay now you're just being redundant