California judge: Shooting victims, families can sue Smith & Wesson, gun shop

[mikeyp]

This shit again

California judge: Shooting victims, families can sue Smith & Wesson, gun shop

A California judge decided victims of the 2019 synagogue shooting near San Diego that killed one worshiper and wounded three can sue the manufacturer of the semiautomatic rifle and the gun shop that sold it to the teenage gunman, according to a newspaper report.

www.washingtontimes.com

SAN DIEGO — A California judge decided victims of the 2019 synagogue shooting near San Diego that killed one worshiper and wounded three can sue the manufacturer of the semiautomatic rifle and the gun shop that sold it to the teenage gunman, according to a newspaper report.

Superior Court Judge Kenneth Medel said Wednesday that victims and families in the Poway, California, synagogue shooting have adequately alleged that Smith & Wesson, the nation’s largest gunmaker, knew its AR-15-style rifle could be easily modified into a machine-gun-like or an assault weapon in violation of state law.

A 2005 federal law shields gunmakers from damages in most cases for crimes committed with their weapons. But it allows lawsuits if the manufacturer was negligent or knowingly violated a state or federal law, the San Francisco Chronicle reported Thursday.

 

[Palladin]

can't wait til people start suing Ford & chevy for auto accidents

 

[WanMan99]

I can see the appeals court slap down looming in the near future...

 

[bigbravehog]

can't wait til people start suing Ford & chevy for auto accidents

and farmers, ranchers, candy makers, bakeries, etc for making us fat

 

[CRSIII]

and farmers, ranchers, candy makers, bakeries, etc for making us fat

Don’t forget the booze.

 

[Laderbuilt]

I now want to sue automakers for every car accident as well as all alcohol Companies and distribution centers. They all know that people drink in excess then drive. Under a similar line of thought. They could make the drink without alcohol or deliver limited amounts to prevent over consumption. Car makers could install technology in the cars that prevent impaired driving.

Let’s sue knife makers and steel plants under the same pretense.

let’s sue politicians who create laws that drive people to their breaking point and go on a killdozer like mission.
Let’s sue judges who put violent people back on the streets and hold them accountable for any crimes that where committed by the person they let go.
God this country is F’d

 

[facecrime]

^^ this country is just rapidly catching up to other countries, still the best place to be, but soon it will be moot point, whole planet is going down the drain

 

[NewGuyRay]

^^ this country is just rapidly catching up to other countries, still the best place to be, but soon it will be moot point, whole planet is going down the drain

The planet will be just fine. It's the human race that is circling the drain.

 

[Uzi2]

Another Kalifornia judge who should be in a 6x10 cell or dangling from a pole.

 

[jct61765]

Second largest gun manufacturer ? Not even close. Ruger is first, Sig Sauer second.

 

[wilson911]

Second largest gun manufacturer ? Not even close. Ruger is first, Sig Sauer second.

By 2019 dollars, Ruger is fourth and Sig is eighth. Smith is first.

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www.zippia.com

 

[timbo]

can't wait til people start suing Ford & chevy for auto accidents

...or for taking the perp to the shooting scene.

 

[Alien]

I think judges should be sued for letting violent criminals repeatedly out to cause more Mayham on the citizens of this country.

 

[wilson911]

can't wait til people start suing Ford & chevy for auto accidents

People have been suing them for years. They are not immune to liability. They typically force vendors to assume the liability.

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/defective-cars-liability-of-manufacturers-and-auto-part-suppliers-7651

 

[wilson911]

I think judges should be sued for letting violent criminals repeatedly out to cause more Mayham on the citizens of this country.

While the thought of holding government employees responsible for their actions is strong, your thought would cause many more problems than it would fix.

 

[mikeyp]

I think judges should be sued for letting violent criminals repeatedly out to cause more Mayham on the citizens of this country.

I've said it before(may have posted it on here) but judges should have a malpractice type insurance. This way they let someone out(parole etc.) and they do something(rape, kill) while out, the judge's insurance gets hit to pay for the settlement. Shit would change REAL fast

 

[Lokdog]

Sueing the maker of a product for someone else buying the product and then misusing said product. Sure judge open that Pandora's box and see what happens. The sky's the limit. These activist judges are extremely dangerous to the public at large

 

[Dadstoys]

I didn't know state judges could over rule federal law.
Learn something every day .

 

[Cipher]

Gotta love it. The sue happy "devil made me do it" society.

 

[Boghog1]

Sandy hook families are suing Remington

Thousands of 'random cartoons' included in documents gunmaker handed over to Sandy Hook families

Lawyers said they found 18,000 random cartoons and 15,000 irrelevant pictures of people go-karting and dirt-biking.

www.wmur.com

 

[Alien]

While the thought of holding government employees responsible for their actions is strong, your thought would cause many more problems than it would fix.

Such as? Making them accountable? The horror!

 

[wilson911]

I've said it before(may have posted it on here) but judges should have a malpractice type insurance. This way they let someone out(parole etc.) and they do something(rape, kill) while out, the judge's insurance gets hit to pay for the settlement. Shit would change REAL fast

Judges are already almost unaccountable. Your solution would just exacerbate that. I'd be interested in things that make them accountable. Such as contracts that require citizen oversight, term limits/elections. Something to make them accountable is my.hope, not a fund for paying out victims when they make mistakes.

 

[wilson911]

Such as? Making them accountable? The horror!

Re-read my first line, I am advocating for personal responsibility. What you proposed would take ANY incentive away for a judge to find anyone guilty. None of them would be willing to risk a lawsuit so you'd see far more violent criminals walking with you system.

 

[mikeyp]

Judges are already almost unaccountable. Your solution would just exacerbate that. I'd be interested in things that make them accountable. Such as contracts that require citizen oversight, term limits/elections. Something to make them accountable is my.hope, not a fund for paying out victims when they make mistakes.

How? If their insurance has to pay out, like other insurances, their rates go up. No deductions, or tax write-offs or anything. They let someone out who commits a crime, victims get a payout, insurance goes up. I think it would slow down a lot of the repeat or really bad offenders being let out

 

[wilson911]

How? If their insurance has to pay out, like other insurances, their rates go up. No deductions, or tax write-offs or anything. They let someone out who commits a crime, victims get a payout, insurance goes up. I think it would slow down a lot of the repeat or really bad offenders being let out

First of all, you know insurance premiums will be part of the compensation. So paying it will will never be a burden on a judge.

Secondly, the penalty will be paid out by insurance. The judge will likely never take this into consideration. He'd be more inclined to approve a bad plea deal to avoid making decisions.

I'm not against your idea, but it would have little consequence. System protects system, and insurance will just add another layer of bullsht.

 

[devo86]

Crazy how in the US people are allowed to sue manufacturers of guns and shops that sell them. but if I die from a vaccine my family can’t sue the manufacturer who marketed and distributed that vaccine for the purpose it was used

 

[MGnoob]

Lame…

 

[MisterHappy]

Years ago, there was a local news story, about a kid that fell out of a jungle gym, and broke their arm.

News story ended with, "And the family is at a loss on whom to sue."

 

[Alien]

Re-read my first line, I am advocating for personal responsibility. What you proposed would take ANY incentive away for a judge to find anyone guilty. None of them would be willing to risk a lawsuit so you'd see far more violent criminals walking with you system.

I think you are mistaken on what I meant. I think the judges should be sued when they continually let violent criminals out to victimize law-abiding citizens. I think you have what my meaning is backwards.

 

[wilson911]

I think you are mistaken on what I meant. I think the judges should be sued when they continually let violent criminals out to victimize law-abiding citizens. I think you have what my meaning is backwards.

Not mistaken at all. I just think there are better, more effective, ways to insure personal responsibility.