Can it be found?

[Turbocharged]

I read an article in my American Rifleman magazine about the Garand and Pedersen rifles.
My father has a Garand, which will be mine one day, but I am curious as to how hard it is to find a Pedersen. I know few were made, so chances are they are all in private collections.
I have never seen the round the pedersen takes either, the .276 Pedersen.

On a similer note, how hard would it be to find one of the original Garands? The original design, not the one made with the US Armys requested changes.
Even more rare I'm sure, the Garand designed for the 276 Pedersen.

I like the history of both, so I'm curious if wanting to own one of every variation is crazy.

Thanks!

 

[vellnueve]

I hope you have a LOT of money. Either that, or wait until the O-bots sell off the contents of Springfield Armory as scrap.

 

[Turbocharged]

I hope you have a LOT of money. Either that, or wait until the O-bots sell off the contents of Springfield Armory as scrap.

Hmmm, maybe I can wait be the dumpster.
I don't imagine there would be any Pedersens at Springfield Armory, as that was where John Garand worked IIRC.
I had a fealing someone would say something along the lines of having a lot of money.

 

[terraformer]

You can find garands modified for the pedersen (search gunbroker, and google) but you will be hard pressed to find the complete kit on top of that. You are talking beaucoup bucks for that.

 

[vellnueve]

Hmmm, maybe I can wait be the dumpster.
I don't imagine there would be any Pedersens at Springfield Armory, as that was where John Garand worked IIRC.
I had a fealing someone would say something along the lines of having a lot of money.

Springfield Armory may be dedicated to SA products, but they have quite a few other historically significant firearms, including many captured foreign firearms. Not out of the question that they have one there.

You can find garands modified for the pedersen (search gunbroker, and google) but you will be hard pressed to find the complete kit on top of that. You are talking beaucoup bucks for that.

I believe he is talking about the .276 caliber Pedersen rifle, not the device. The rifle would cost even more than the devices that are out there.

 

[Gammon]

In don't think Springfield Armory of Geneseo IL has much to do with the real Springfield Armory.

 

[vellnueve]

In don't think Springfield Armory of Geneseo IL has much to do with the real Springfield Armory.

And your reason for bringing up this point is?

 

[Turbocharged]

And your reason for bringing up this point is?

Maybe telling me where NOT to go looking? lol

You can find garands modified for the pedersen (search gunbroker, and google) but you will be hard pressed to find the complete kit on top of that. You are talking beaucoup bucks for that.

I'm thinking of the actual Pedersen rifle that was submited to the US Army along with the Garand rifle for testing, but ultimitly was turned down.

I wouldn't mind experimenting with the .276 Pedersen round to see how it compairs to others of the same class.

 

[terraformer]

Maybe telling me where NOT to go looking? lol



I'm thinking of the actual Pedersen rifle that was submited to the US Army along with the Garand rifle for testing, but ultimitly was turned down.

I wouldn't mind experimenting with the .276 Pedersen round to see how it compairs to others of the same class.

Sorry, I meant 1903's modified for the pederson not garand. But I just realized when you said .276 you are looking for the rifle he created and not the device he created to convert a 1903 into a semi. I doubt you have any chance in hell of seeing one of those rifles up close and personal. You do have a chance at seeing the conversion device but for a lot of cash.

FYI: That 7 mm pedersen round is an underpowered version of the german 7mm. Find an arisaka to play with and it is likely close.

 

[Pilgrim]

If you can find a Pedersen device for a 1903, expect to pay big time. I know a guy that kept one in a safe deposit box and turned down $25k.

I've seen a couple on line that sold for more than $30k.

I think I read somewhere that there are only about 100 known to exist.

 

[Patriot]

Hmmm, maybe I can wait be the dumpster.
I don't imagine there would be any Pedersens at Springfield Armory, as that was where John Garand worked IIRC.
I had a fealing someone would say something along the lines of having a lot of money.

Picture of the Pederson Device on display at the Armory:

http://www.pbase.com/mrclark/image/73439217

 

[vellnueve]

He's talking about the Pedersen rifle, not the Pedersen device.

 

[Pilgrim]

I don't remember hearing about a Pedersen rifle in competition with the Garand. There was the Johnson, though.

 

[Turbocharged]

I don't remember hearing about a Pedersen rifle in competition with the Garand. There was the Johnson, though.

Article here:
http://www.americanrifleman.org/ArticlePage.aspx?id=1564&cid=9

 

[vellnueve]

I don't remember hearing about a Pedersen rifle in competition with the Garand. There was the Johnson, though.

There was. Pedersen may be THE name in innovative, but failed firearms enterprises. The Pedersen device, the Pedersen rifle, the .276 Pedersen, and the failed Irwin-Pedersen company producing M1 carbines.