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Carry Guns M&P9c vs. SIG p239 which is better?
- Thread starter Old Glory
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I have both, I think the M&P is lighter and a bit more comfortable. I however trust the sig and think it handles/aims better and is a lot smoother.
My vote is the sig.
My vote is the sig.
Had both. I currently have the P239. More accurate and easier to conceal. Tad heavier though and only 8+1 vs 10+1. I prefer the DA/SA over the striker as well. Finally, I find it much easier to clean - the ridges in the polymer frame of the M&P trap the grit.
I'd take my P239 any day over an M&P and I've owned both and still own the 239. If you're talking "an M&P with a trigger job" then it's only fair to include a modified P239 in the mix. The Sig short trigger and SRT kit, both pieces available from Sig factory make the 239 a fantastic shooter. The 239 has a great feel with Hogue's on it, and even better with the Crimson Trace.
Here's mine:
Sig 239
Short Trigger
SRT Kit
Sig Logo'd P239 Crimson Trace
FWIW: You can get 10 round P239 mags to make 10+1 if you need that many rounds.
Here's mine:
Sig 239
Short Trigger
SRT Kit
Sig Logo'd P239 Crimson Trace
FWIW: You can get 10 round P239 mags to make 10+1 if you need that many rounds.
I've been using the Hornady's in my 239 too. Jesus is it scary accurate with them. First time I put a mag through it there was just one big hole in the 10 without even trying hard.
I did the hogue wood grips on my and it's a beautiful shooter. Haven't done the trigger though - is it that big a difference?
I did the hogue wood grips on my and it's a beautiful shooter. Haven't done the trigger though - is it that big a difference?
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Night and day, be happy to let you take it for a spin if you want.
Apples vs Oranges.
One is DA/SA the other is striker fired.
Can't really compare them directly due to that alone, because action type differences are pretty significant... although I'm sure the M+P 9c is better
suited for CCW, due to weight alone. The M+P has lower bore axis, which (generally) means less muzzle flip. The P239s are very flippy guns, especially once you get above 9mm. Not so bad with a better set of grips on them.. first order of business is to dump the soap bars that come on
it.
If I was forced into a choice between the two I'd probably choose the P239, but only because of familiarity. (I owned one for several years, never a problem with it). Admittedly, though, the 9c is probably going to be an easier carry due to weight...
In my case I wasn't stuck with 2 choices, so I sold the P239 and got (another) G19.. and that's all she wrote. Not much bigger and almost double the
capacity.
-Mike
One is DA/SA the other is striker fired.
Can't really compare them directly due to that alone, because action type differences are pretty significant... although I'm sure the M+P 9c is better
suited for CCW, due to weight alone. The M+P has lower bore axis, which (generally) means less muzzle flip. The P239s are very flippy guns, especially once you get above 9mm. Not so bad with a better set of grips on them.. first order of business is to dump the soap bars that come on
it.
If I was forced into a choice between the two I'd probably choose the P239, but only because of familiarity. (I owned one for several years, never a problem with it). Admittedly, though, the 9c is probably going to be an easier carry due to weight...
In my case I wasn't stuck with 2 choices, so I sold the P239 and got (another) G19.. and that's all she wrote. Not much bigger and almost double the
capacity.
-Mike
Curious, going off the "flippy" comment, is that with factory grips or even after you changed them? Like you, I experienced the "flippy" a little bit, went to the Hogues and it was gone, completely. My hand was able to hold that gun so firm it was a pleasure to shoot.
Also, opinions on the metal vs. plastic argument? (frames)
Another thing I enjoy is how the factory 8 round mags have just the slightest pinky rest, it's perfect, no change of floor plates needed.
They are very different guns. The 239 is a great handgun, but I haven't carried mine for months. Of the two, I would go with the M&Pc for capacity and lighter weight, though a trigger job is a must if purchased in Mass. Consider a Walther PPS (also with a trigger job if it's a Mass purchase). With 6, 7, and 8 round mags available you can have the same capacity as the Sig with less weight than the M&Pc and about 0.3in less width than both.
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+1 on the grip change making the flip go away. Small handed people may not have the issue at all but anyone with a glove size medium or more should consider it.
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As to the weight - loaded I don't notice much of a difference. The extra 2 rounds of 9mm make up for the savngs from the polymer frame IMO so fully loaded they feel about the same.
Squished, where can you get the Sig SRT kit?
What is an SRT kit?
Unfortunately Sig made it a bit political to get the kit. Only Sig Certified Law Enforcement Armorers can order it. A regular Sig Armorer cannot. However, for us normal people all we need to do is send our firearm to Sig and they will install it, not very cheap though. Turnaround time was less than a week. Well worth it imho.....
Same thing here. The only gun I ever liked hogue wraparounds on
was the P239. Makes it a completely different gun handling wise.
All about user preference. I have guns with both.... and like both. I think plastic frames help with environmental resistance, though. (eg, corrosion, etc. ) I still have a P220 and a P228..... I really miss the P229 I had in .40, though. One of these days I'll get another one.
I did like the mags on the P239, and the placement of the button was such
that I could reload that gun very quickly as well...
-Mike
Looking at their web site, however, it looks like they don't do the SRT install on a 239. Is their web site out of date?
Funny, the button on the 239 is really the only gripe I have. I have a hard time getting my thumb on it, I had to re-learn a mag change as I have to pivot the gun slightly left in my hand to get my thumb on the button.
They will, just call.
has anyone had the DAK trigger installed on the 239?
I've never shot the DAK, but I hear it's quite the trigger.
strangenh
NES Member
I have, too, on the 239. It's... different. Too long a pull to compare with a striker-fired gun's trigger, but it's remarkably smooth and even, not gritty or heavy at all. Plus you can feel the break point (still breaks like a good Sig should) and treat it like a two-stage, though it's probably best to pull straight through like on a DA revolver. I'm still ambivalent on it, but if I had to choose a DA pull or DAK pull for the first shot, the DAK wins hands down.
Is it similar to a Kahr trigger?
