I have a good friend of mine (doesn't have internet connection to ask this) and he is going to Foxwoods and was wondering if he can carry from MA into CT. (obviously he can't carry into Foxwoods Casino) but can he carry on his person or in the trunk on the way?
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Carrying / Transporting MA to CT
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RichM
Retired Army Veteran
No. CT requires a CT permit for a loaded handgun carried in a car.
SUMMARY OF STATE GUN LAWS
... sounds like he'd be better leaving it at home...
SUMMARY OF STATE GUN LAWS
... sounds like he'd be better leaving it at home...
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Not without a CT permit to carry it isn't. "Going to Foxwoods" is not one of the exemptions listed for transporting in a vehicle without a permit in Ch 529 Sec. 29-35, and it certainly isn't covered by the Federal safe passage act (18 USC § 926A)
You do NOT need a pistol permit to possess/carry a pistol in your home/business in CT. If you are a non-resident you must keep it locked in your trunk..unless you are in compliance with one of the exemptions listed below or own a home/business here.
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2009/pub/Chap529.htm#Sec29-35.htm
Sec. 29-35. Carrying of pistol or revolver without permit prohibited. Exceptions. (a) No person shall carry any pistol or revolver upon his or her person, except when such person is within the dwelling house or place of business of such person, without a permit to carry the same issued as provided in section 29-28. The provisions of this subsection shall not apply to the carrying of any pistol or revolver by any parole officer or peace officer of this state, or parole officer or peace officer of any other state while engaged in the pursuit of official duties, or federal marshal or federal law enforcement agent, or to any member of the armed forces of the United States, as defined in section 27-103, or of this state, as defined in section 27-2, when on duty or going to or from duty, or to any member of any military organization when on parade or when going to or from any place of assembly, or to the transportation of pistols or revolvers as merchandise, or to any person transporting any pistol or revolver while contained in the package in which it was originally wrapped at the time of sale and while transporting the same from the place of sale to the purchaser's residence or place of business, or to any person removing such person's household goods or effects from one place to another, or to any person while transporting any such pistol or revolver from such person's place of residence or business to a place or individual where or by whom such pistol or revolver is to be repaired or while returning to such person's place of residence or business after the same has been repaired, or to any person transporting a pistol or revolver in or through the state for the purpose of taking part in competitions, taking part in formal pistol or revolver training, repairing such pistol or revolver or attending any meeting or exhibition of an organized collectors' group if such person is a bona fide resident of the United States and is permitted to possess and carry a pistol or revolver in the state or subdivision of the United States in which such person resides, or to any person transporting a pistol or revolver to and from a testing range at the request of the issuing authority, or to any person transporting an antique pistol or revolver, as defined in section 29-33. For the purposes of this subsection, "formal pistol or revolver training" means pistol or revolver training at a locally approved or permitted firing range or training facility, and "transporting a pistol or revolver" means transporting a pistol or revolver that is unloaded and, if such pistol or revolver is being transported in a motor vehicle, is not readily accessible or directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle or, if such pistol or revolver is being transported in a motor vehicle that does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, such pistol or revolver shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console. Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit the carrying of a pistol or revolver during formal pistol or revolver training or repair.
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You would have to lock it in your trunk....or if you come here often enough..get a permit to carry...if you have a Mass LTC you will get a CT Permit..
Yes, the safe passage act should cover you when traveling through CT, even if you switch modes of transport (i.e. drive to Bradley and then fly out). While Ashcroft was Federal AG he said that was ok, and nobody since has said otherwise.
Which law allows non-residents without a permit to transport a pistol or revolver within the state of CT (as opposed to through the state) as long as it is locked in their trunk (aside from the exceptions listed in 29-35)?
Nothing unless you are flying, own a house/business here or one of the other exemptions.
Mass Resident traveling to Ct
I live in Southwick, and we border Suffield CT and Granby. I have a MASS LTCA. Can I bring my gun (locked in the trunk) to:
1.) Dr. Colo's the optician. His office is in Suffield, CT about 6 miles from my house. He requested that I do so for a vision check for reading glasses, sights and target acquisition.
2.) Hoffman gun, to practice at the range.
Dick
I live in Southwick, and we border Suffield CT and Granby. I have a MASS LTCA. Can I bring my gun (locked in the trunk) to:
1.) Dr. Colo's the optician. His office is in Suffield, CT about 6 miles from my house. He requested that I do so for a vision check for reading glasses, sights and target acquisition.
2.) Hoffman gun, to practice at the range.
Dick
RichM
Retired Army Veteran
I am not a lawyer, but I don't think so. You are not licensed in CT, therefore you cannot legally posses in CT, so FOPA does not protect you. CT also has significant restrictions about transport in a car without a CT CCL (only home from the store where it was purchased, or to be repaired, or to the range, if I remember correctly).
ETA: OTOH, a blue gun, or even a block of wood would show the Dr. where you hold your handgun...
ETA: OTOH, a blue gun, or even a block of wood would show the Dr. where you hold your handgun...
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If you live that close just get a CT Permit..it can be done through the mail...
dcmdon
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A non-resident would not be legal transporting a handgun in CT unless it was expressly for the purposes that have exemptions. Sanctioned shooting match, repair, etc.
FOPA does not apply to INTRAstate transport.
dcmdon
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No and NO!!!
Look at the statute. Its very clear. (for legalese) Transport only allowed by non-licensed people for:
1) repair
2) sanctioned matches if you canlegally own the firearm in your home state
Don
p.s. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it. I'm saying that its not legal.
p.p.s. Here's one possible solution for the optician. Bring the slide with you. you can hold it up and observe the sights. The frame is the firearm on 99% of all handguns, so you should be ok.
Thats pretty much it.
Ok researched and read all above. Still not convinced about bringing my handgun with my CL from Massachusetts to Brady in my suitcase in a lockbox to bring to Florida while visiting family? Has anyone done this and is it legal. Have been told by State Police person at Bradley not sure then called again and was told no after he put me on hold to most likely ask someone else. I would like to bring it with me without getting stoped at airport was told airline I'm taking is fine as long as I claim that it is secured in my luggage.
Definitely going to get my LTC in CT when I get back.
Definitely going to get my LTC in CT when I get back.
dcmdon
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If you are not sure, then I guess it's your problem.
This is not a grey area. It's 100% white.
100% legal
100% safe.
There is no "getting stopped at airport". You bring it to baggage and tell then you want to check a gun. They have you sign an affidavit stating that it's unloaded. You lock it up in front of them with non-TSA locks, and they take it in back to swab for explosives while you wait. Five minutes later, they come back and tell you everything is good and then you proceed to your gate. All very simple. Very professional.
This specific thread is 15 (!!!) years old. But if you understood that the law in question is Federal and not impacted by the massive legal changes since the last post in this thread, then you would also know that this is still an established right. Or, maybe just ask the question again.
Bradley follows FOPA. I have flown with firearms out of BDL and never once even asked for any kind of license or permit.
One last point. Don't ask people things. They typically don't know.
Whenever you travel with a firearm you need to print out
1) TSA regulations on traveling with firearms. Transporting Firearms and Ammunition | Transportation Security Administration
2) your airlines rules on traveling with firearms. Ammunition, Explosives & Firearms | Delta Air Lines
3) a copy of the safe passage portion of FOPA. 18 U.S. Code § 926A - Interstate transportation of firearms
4) Specific to this case, CT law allowing transport of firearms through the state. Essentially CT has put FOPA language into its statutes.
Sec. 29-38d. Interstate transportation of firearms through state. (a) The provisions of sections 29-35 and 29-38 shall not apply to the interstate transportation of firearms through this state in accordance with 18 USC 926A and 927, as amended from time to time, by any person who is not otherwise prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving or possessing a firearm. Such person may transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where such person may lawfully possess and carry such firearm through this state to any other place where such person may lawfully possess and carry such firearm provided such transportation is in accordance with subsection (b) of this section.
First, don't ask police what the law is. You will get conflicting answers if you ask two or more officers. Their knowledge of gun laws varies, especially when it involves gray areas and minutia. When it involves guns their knee jerk reaction is to say "no, not legal" even when it is legal to do so.
As already pointed out, it is 100% legal, provided you can legally possess the firearm in MA and your final destination, to fly out of Bradly Airport with firearms following the airline's specific rules. CT has several carveouts for doing so which have been previously mentioned. In addition to what was already indicate for CT laws and FOPA, there was a U.S. Department of Justice memo publicly issued years ago (mainly due to NY and NJ's continual arrest of people flying through their airports with firearms) indicating so long as one follows FOPA they can transport firearms through airports in their checked luggage following airport/airline rules.
https://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/doj_doc_nyc_air.pdf
PS: If your plane diverts to, or connects through, a ban state like NY or NJ before continuing on to your destination, DO NOT pickup the luggage containing the firearms. Let the airlines retain possession of the luggage so they can transport it to the destination airport. Where people typically get arrested in NY and NJ is picking up their luggage containing the firearm, leaving the airport and remaining in NY or NJ, then returning to the airport for their connecting flight and getting arrested upon checking with their firearms (usually a handgun).
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dcmdon
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I agree with all of this.
My only add is that on a practical level nobody seems to have any significant trouble flying out of Bradley or Logan. Just make sure you print out current TSA regs regarding firearms and ammunition as well as your airline's policies on firearms and ammunition so things will go smoothly if you run into any luggage handlers.
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