Shark_Cage
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Cody Wilson meets female via SugarDaddyMeet.com, gets charged with child sexual assault
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AHM
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She went to a hotel room with him, they had sex. He paid her 500 bucks.. ???????????????????????????What am I missing?
He met her on an 18+ website, and neither seems to have been charged with prostitution...
Imagine going into Target, buying a few T-shirts, then being charged with "receiving stolen goods".
namedpipes
NES Member
That technically could happen, if Target sold you shirts that they had stolen.
Not saying that's all that likely, but topo-wise it's no different from a fence buying stolen goods from neighborhood junkies.
Lip
Army Veteran
Depends on the prison
Right, which is why in most places there's the "knowingly" element to such a charge.
I'm not saying it should be as simple as "knowingly" penetrating a child, or whatever it is state by state (that's what he's charged with in TX - there's a big loophole there; just don't ask.)
All I'm saying is that being there are "kids" who look like adults, and vice versa, and there's apparently no shortage of "children" driving cars with real IDs, using their fake IDs to buy booze, and then meeting men THEY SOLICITED using 18+ services, maybe there should be a small loophole for being actively deceived. Especially when a hundred miles east there would be no crime because in most states it's 16, in a few it's 17, and very rarely it's 18.
If you have drinks with someone you met using an 18+ dating service and they turn out to be underage, it sounds like, in order, this is the fault of the underage person, the dating service, the bar for serving on a fake ID, and then yourself (and even then, not much - can you run a CORI on every person you date?)...
Charge the dude for solicitation, fine. I wonder if he'd have a civil suit against the website AND the "victim" here.
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She went to a hotel room with him, they had sex. He paid her 500 bucks.. ???????????????????????????
Nothing, the whole site is a shady cover up for 'professional escort services' trying to keep things just under the wire of legality and
deniability.
IIRC, Craigs List dropped their personal listings because things were getting out of hand for that sort of thing.
One thing worth noting, I didn't see any age verification requirement mentioned on the site.
I could have easily missed it, but when I signed up all I had to do was verify my email address... that was it.
Even if age verification was required, it's easily faked.
The minor involved, I wonder how many other contacts she's had before Wilson?
I have a feeling that Wilson wasn't set up before the fact, but after the fact when his name popped up
on someones radar screen, possibly because some agency has been keeping a watchful eye on SugarDaddyMeet
for some time.
lol who stands to lose more though? a 16 17 year old whore type probably doesn't care much about pleading out on an f bomb. Weak felony convictions are only hurtful to people otherwise operating most of their lives within the law. It's just another illustration of how f***ed our judicial system is...
I agree on that, there's a lot more to this than will ever come out.
If he didn't get burned today, he would have eventually.
Just so happens that today was his 'got'cha motherf***er moment.
Except we know nothing here about the "victim".
She could be a cheap sucked off every guy on the football team behind the bleachers, dime store whore, and then some, or she she could be
an honors student, head cheerleader, prom queen that everyone looks up to and adores.
Place either or in an interrogation room with seasoned professionals, and even the most hardcore truck stop whore will break down in tears and say what they want to hear.
KBCraig
NES Member
I posted today on a political page that it's a good reminder to not be stupid.
My cell phone number has been in the wild for years, so I get the occasional spam text. Most of them are about as convincing as a Nigerian prince promising me millions.
Within days of filing for state rep, I started getting something entirely different: articulately-written and suggestive texts along the line of, "You've been on my mind a lot lately. Can we meet up?"
I have a healthy amount of paranoia, so I just laughed. I'm also a very happily married middle aged guy and not interested in stepping out. (Very early on, my lovely bride told me that if I ever screwed up, the punishment wouldn't be divorce... it would be having to live with her pissed off at me every single day for the rest of my life.
) So yeah, even if you're a first-time candidate for an office with no real power, you have to be aware of such things.
KBCraig
NES Member
Someone who's already been selling it, just has to negotiate the act and the price.
Any charges of prostitution, or of producing and transmitting child porn, will go away as soon as they have Wilson in jail.
Maybe apples and oranges, but this situation reminds me of the Silk Road/Dread Pirate Roberts investigation...
one just does not laugh at the powers that be, tell them to f*** off and expect to get away with it.
To them, the girl is just a meaningless name and end to it.
WTF was Cody thinking when he knew Bloomberg and every Deep State type actor pushing civilian disarmament has a price on his head? He probably has a team of Fusion GPS types and PIs following him around all day looking for dirt. Why the Hell would one even take the chance of getting nicked for even the smallest of offenses in that sort of environment let alone patronizing whores. W-T-F was he on a giant ego trip or what?
AHM
NES Member
Clintonesque Decay of the Fabric of Society Dept.
So now is everyone entitled to an "intent" escape hatch,
since it worked so well for the Hildebeest?
If indicted,
I don't ask for special treatment -
just treat me like the 2016 Democrat presidential candidate.
I don't ask for special treatment -
just treat me like the 2016 Democrat presidential candidate.
-- Apologies to Howie
AHM
NES Member
No, er, intention, on my part of a personal attack.
Just highlighting that "intent" is quite the slippery slope,
and the Donks were incredibly irresponsible to invent that legal theory
considering they knew not (nor likely cared)
where it would ultimately take the rule of law.
Maybe he should have cut off a limb and counted the rings?
Remember the To Catch A Predator series with Chris Hanson...Didn't they have the decoy make it clear to the perp that they were underage?
Absolutely. Hate to see a patriot likely go down like this. Hopefully the organization or others will carry on for him.
Texas has the same law as NH I believe. If the "victim" is a minor (anyone under 18, regardless of what the age of consent is, TX it is 17 and NH it is 16) and they accept money for the sex, it is not only a felony, but the lack of knowledge of age is banned as a valid defense.
"645:2 Prostitution and Related Offenses. –
I. A person is guilty of a misdemeanor if the person:
(a) Solicits, agrees to perform, or engages in sexual contact as defined in RSA 632-A:1, IV or sexual penetration as defined in RSA 632-A:1, V, in return for consideration; or
(b) Induces or otherwise purposely causes another to violate subparagraph (a); or
(c) Transports another into or within this state with the purpose of promoting or facilitating such other in engaging in conduct in violation of subparagraph (a); or
(d) Not being a legal dependent incapable of self support, knowingly is supported in whole or in part by the proceeds of violation of subparagraph (a); or
(e) Knowingly permits a place under such person's control to be used for violation of subparagraph (a); or
(f) Pays, agrees to pay, or offers to pay another person to engage in sexual contact as defined in RSA 632-A:1, IV or sexual penetration as defined in RSA 632-A:1, V, with the payor or with another person.
II. A person is guilty of a class B felony if such person violates the provisions of subparagraphs (b), (c), (d), (e), or (f) of paragraph I and the violation:
(a) Involves another person who is under the age of 18; or
(b) Involved compelling another person by force or intimidation.
III. A person is guilty under this section regardless of the sex of the persons involved.
IV. It shall be an affirmative defense to a charge under subparagraph I(a) that the defendant engaged in the conduct because he or she was the victim of trafficking in persons, as defined in RSA 633:7.
V. A person under 18 years of age shall not be subject to a juvenile delinquency proceeding under RSA 169-B or criminal prosecution for the commission of an offense under subparagraph I(a).
VI. In a prosecution under subparagraph II(a), the actor's lack of knowledge of the other person's age shall not constitute a defense."
Section 645:2 Prostitution and Related Offenses.
"645:2 Prostitution and Related Offenses. –
I. A person is guilty of a misdemeanor if the person:
(a) Solicits, agrees to perform, or engages in sexual contact as defined in RSA 632-A:1, IV or sexual penetration as defined in RSA 632-A:1, V, in return for consideration; or
(b) Induces or otherwise purposely causes another to violate subparagraph (a); or
(c) Transports another into or within this state with the purpose of promoting or facilitating such other in engaging in conduct in violation of subparagraph (a); or
(d) Not being a legal dependent incapable of self support, knowingly is supported in whole or in part by the proceeds of violation of subparagraph (a); or
(e) Knowingly permits a place under such person's control to be used for violation of subparagraph (a); or
(f) Pays, agrees to pay, or offers to pay another person to engage in sexual contact as defined in RSA 632-A:1, IV or sexual penetration as defined in RSA 632-A:1, V, with the payor or with another person.
II. A person is guilty of a class B felony if such person violates the provisions of subparagraphs (b), (c), (d), (e), or (f) of paragraph I and the violation:
(a) Involves another person who is under the age of 18; or
(b) Involved compelling another person by force or intimidation.
III. A person is guilty under this section regardless of the sex of the persons involved.
IV. It shall be an affirmative defense to a charge under subparagraph I(a) that the defendant engaged in the conduct because he or she was the victim of trafficking in persons, as defined in RSA 633:7.
V. A person under 18 years of age shall not be subject to a juvenile delinquency proceeding under RSA 169-B or criminal prosecution for the commission of an offense under subparagraph I(a).
VI. In a prosecution under subparagraph II(a), the actor's lack of knowledge of the other person's age shall not constitute a defense."
Section 645:2 Prostitution and Related Offenses.
I can understand that, but the question of "lack of knowledge" is different than "being misled by forged government documents".
"I didn't ask how old the hooker was!" and "She said she was 18!"
vs
"Her drivers license said she was over 21, we went to a bar, she was vetted by a dating service"
Who even knows if money changed hands.
His ego, which was basically his biggest asset was also his biggest downfall.
His mistake in all this was not saying "Well, if we're going to piss off this many people, I need to spread out the hate coming back in the other direction". Maybe he did have plans for that, don't
know.
-Mike
IDK how many times I've said this, I said it after Subway Jared got popped for sex with a minor, but if you have money and you want to f*** teens GO TO SOUTHEAST ASIA AND DO IT! The hookers in Thailand and Cambodia would love your money and if you already have money a plane ride and a hotel for a weekend is a lot less expensive than the legal defense bills and less painful than the prison ass rape you'd be getting by doing it here.
Most ego driven pedos and those kinds of people don't act with caution though, and I think for some of them the taboo factor plays into their sicko fantasies- and also their delusions often extend to the fact that many of them
are so f***ed in the head that they don't think what they are doing is wrong, etc.
I'm not even suggesting that wilson falls into this category, fwiw. Who knows what this girl supposedly told him, etc, although its probably obvious that he's an idiot for believing her, or not playing the "trust, but verify"
card.
-Mike
Unless you are happily married when you become famous for whatever reason, you might as well declare celibacy because anything you do in private is going to be made public by enemies, extortionists, or internet click hustlers.
Mesatchornug
NES Member
Oh come on. Intent has been part of criminal law literally forever. Go look up mens rea and think about what you've said here. Hell, the difference between murder and manslaughter is intent.
Nobody "invented" this as a "loophole" for Hillary or anybody else. But you go ahead and bring us back to the Star Chambers. It worked out well enough for the English.
You are in MA, just tell them what Maura thinks about you and where she wants you to be. Once they will know that they will milk you dry and you will end up looking for a public assistance and finally starting worries free life you only heard about.
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Taiwan's National Immigration Agency said Mr Wilson had arrived on 6 September, Agence France-Presse reported, but that there had been no US request for judicial assistance as yet.
There is no extradition treaty between the United States and Taiwan.
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