I would hate to become 20 again! I can't imagine how young people can live in this #MEONLY BS.
-
If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for a NES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over.
Cody Wilson meets female via SugarDaddyMeet.com, gets charged with child sexual assault
- Thread starter DispositionMatrix
- Start date
I would hate to become 20 again! I can't imagine how young people can live in this #MEONLY BS.
Hetzer
NES Member
So she joined the site, lied about her age, went through whatever hoops you have to jump through to hook up with someone, accepted and sent nude pics, agreed to meet him, followed though on the meeting and consensual sex, accepted $500 cash for the sex and parted ways.
Then she called the police and told them that she was guilty of doing all of that..
No, nothing suspicious here
Then she called the police and told them that she was guilty of doing all of that..
No, nothing suspicious here
So she joined the site, lied about her age, went through whatever hoops you have to jump through to hook up with someone, accepted and sent nude pics, agreed to meet him, followed though on the meeting and consensual sex, accepted $500 cash for the sex and parted ways.
Then she called the police and told them that she was guilty of doing all of that..
No, nothing suspicious here
They learn from the best:
How Russian ‘sexpionage’ agents and the real-life Red Sparrows used the art of seduction to wage a very hot war against the West
Nothing new here! Cody did not pay any attention to the fact that the target on his back grew much larger than he thought.
"
Cody Wilson, the owner of a company that makes untraceable 3D-printed guns who is wanted on an arrest warrant accusing him of sex with an underage girl, has left the U.S. and was last known to be in Taiwan, investigators in Texas said Wednesday.
Austin Police Cmdr. Troy Officer told reporters that the department was working with national and international law enforcement to locate Wilson, whom Officer said missed a scheduled return flight to the U.S.
Officer said it was unclear why Wilson went to Taiwan, but he added that a friend of the 16-year-old alleged victim told Wilson that he was under investigation before he left. The commander also said Wilson's name had been entered into a national law enforcement computer listing him as wanted for sexual assault of a child.
Investigators said Wilson met the girl for sex at an Austin hotel on Aug. 15 and paid her $500 afterward. A counselor for the teenager reported the accusation to Austin police a week later, saying Wilson met the girl online."
Cody Wilson, gun entrepreneur accused of sex with minor, left US for Taiwan, officials say
Cody Wilson, the owner of a company that makes untraceable 3D-printed guns who is wanted on an arrest warrant accusing him of sex with an underage girl, has left the U.S. and was last known to be in Taiwan, investigators in Texas said Wednesday.
Austin Police Cmdr. Troy Officer told reporters that the department was working with national and international law enforcement to locate Wilson, whom Officer said missed a scheduled return flight to the U.S.
Officer said it was unclear why Wilson went to Taiwan, but he added that a friend of the 16-year-old alleged victim told Wilson that he was under investigation before he left. The commander also said Wilson's name had been entered into a national law enforcement computer listing him as wanted for sexual assault of a child.
Investigators said Wilson met the girl for sex at an Austin hotel on Aug. 15 and paid her $500 afterward. A counselor for the teenager reported the accusation to Austin police a week later, saying Wilson met the girl online."
Cody Wilson, gun entrepreneur accused of sex with minor, left US for Taiwan, officials say
Like Tracy Lords? From what I've heard, nobody who bought her videos, etc. was prosecuted since she had mis-represented herself. Different time, different rules I guess.
No kidding. I never "carded" anyone I dated and I doubt any of my friends did either. It wasn't a concern in high school or college dating circles back in the more enlightened age.
So she joined the site, lied about her age, went through whatever hoops you have to jump through to hook up with someone, accepted and sent nude pics, agreed to meet him, followed though on the meeting and consensual sex, accepted $500 cash for the sex and parted ways.
Then she called the police and told them that she was guilty of doing all of that..
No, nothing suspicious here
No kidding.
![[tinfoil]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/tinfoilhatsmile.gif "Tinfoil Hat [tinfoil]")
this is the problem, in our legal system it's trivial to arrest practically anyone and put them to jail. The endless stories of FBI being politicized, local LE getting instructions from mayors is just great indication that we are basically in Soviet Union. Add to that preferential treatment of those in power and we got a situation where only a reset can solve these problems. We are too far gone to return to any sort of "justice".
Sure, we joke that a war vet with a shrpanel in his body and no LTC/FID can get jammed up for illegal posession, but it is the LAW, and the law is a joke ... until you actually charged with it. Wilson's charges are no less bullshit.
namedpipes
NES Member
How does this impact glory holes?
Asking for a friend.
Asking for a friend.
eboos
NES Member
Statutory rape, in any jurisdiction that I have seen it, is a strict liability offense. There is no defense for lack of intent, only - if it happened, you are guilty. The only possible defense that I can see is if the accused was not a willful participant in the sexual encounter, i.e. that they were raped. Fraud or misrepresentation on the part of the "victim" most likely will not be enough to clear you.
That's justice for you.
It might be less risky, but if caught and proven, that person can face federal charges for traveling overseas in order to have sex with a minor...
"Authorizes fines and/or imprisonment for up to 30 years for U.S. citizens or residents who engage in illicit sexual conduct abroad. For the purposes of this law, illicit sexual conduct is defined as commercial sex with or sexual abuse of anyone under 18, or any sex with anyone under 16.[2][5][6][7][8][9] Previous US law was less strict, only punishing those having sex either in contravention of local laws OR in commerce (prostitution); but did not prohibit non-commercial sex with, for example, a 14-year-old if such sex was legal in the foreign territory".
PROTECT Act of 2003
Save it for ammo.. You'll get more pleasure out of it.. and you're less likely to get screwed over by that fancy 1911 in 38 super.
Mesatchornug
NES Member
Totally true. My point was more general, as the commenters were seeming to pretend that intent is a new idea in criminal prosecution, and that it shouldn't be considered. I will leave it to better minds than mine to debate how statutory rape laws "should work."
eboos
NES Member
Voidable contract due to infancy.
AHM
NES Member
Sure, sure; I bet we've both seen the exact same textbook on it.
That's why you don't see me whining about manslaughter charges for the Texas cop who executed the guy that lived in the apartment above her.
That's right, while the FBI had evidence that the Hildebeest was grossly negligent in her handling of classified information, James Comey totally didn't testify before Congress that she was not charged because she had no intent, even though intent is not an element of the crime.
Oh wait, yes he did do exactly that.
Mesatchornug
NES Member
namedpipes
NES Member
I find pedos to be the most despicable of people, however, I can't see how something one does outside the jurisdiction of the US can possibly fall under our jurisdiction. If Taiwan or whatever wants to prosecute a person breaking THEIR laws while on THEIR soil, fine (and not only fine in this case, but encouraged). But it isn't any of OUR business...
eboos
NES Member
The catch is it is the "traveling in order to" part that is a US crime. We could not prosecute for the underlying crime, if it is even a crime in the foreign jurisdiction.
namedpipes
NES Member
I see the subtlety, but disagree it is a reasonable law. Anyway, the only people I know of that "travel for sex" are those liberals associated with pizzagate.
The one person I personally know that's ever been to the Philippines went there as a missionary (the religious kind, not the sex kind).
Palladin
NES Member
Creator of 3-D printed guns flies to Taiwan amid U.S. sex assault accusation
he just boogied to Taiwan !!
Cody Wilson, 30, was placed under investigation after a counsellor on Aug. 22 told police that a 16-year-old girl had said she was paid $500 to have sex with Wilson at an Austin hotel, Austin Police Commander Troy Officer said at a news conference.
So she's not a hooker, but in counselling; the counselor called the cops
he just boogied to Taiwan !!
Cody Wilson, 30, was placed under investigation after a counsellor on Aug. 22 told police that a 16-year-old girl had said she was paid $500 to have sex with Wilson at an Austin hotel, Austin Police Commander Troy Officer said at a news conference.
So she's not a hooker, but in counselling; the counselor called the cops
pre-crime codified. I agree that in some cases intent is pretty easy to prove, but in most cases there is no way to do it without a shadow of a doubt, unless you assume that entire population of US are straight squares that never do anything weird or worthy of scrutiny. I can see that being a case sometime in the past, but that's no longer true. There is no way to clearly prove motive without a shadow of a doubt.
Again, this reeks of Soviet Union, where "concerned citizens" would rat you out because didn't wear Chlenin badge, your hair was too long (you f***ing laugh, but it's true) or you met in strange men in parking lots. You MUST be up to something not good and good soviet citizens ratted you out. In Poland (which declasified its KGB archives) there were 6% of part time "secret helpers". I bet you no country is different.
AHM
NES Member
And I will counter-concede that the motivation behind my original comment was not to make assertions about whether intent is an element of this or that vice crime (the present topic). Rather, I wanted to underscore that the FBI's recent apparent use of missing intent to broom a case that did not require intent was a precedent dangerous to the rule of law in far-flung future cases. (I.e., yet another potential tool in defense lawyers' briefcases). You never know when some judge will fall for an argument unsupported by law.
(The chapter "The Worth of a Man" in My Life in Court details how Louis Nizer got unprecedented damages awarded in a wrongful death suit against the Long Island Rail Road because the victim was about to change careers upon the end of night school(?) and his epic performance on a battery of aptitude tests correlated with a big income in his next career. It was settled law that the plaintiffs weren't entitled to benefit from such speculation, but the court indulged them anyhow. Decades later, every victim of a homicide in sketchy circumstances is an "aspiring rapper" not just because rappers tend to develop spontaneous epidermal ventilation, but because it's a plausible strategy to increase a civil award).
I'm not 100%, but it's a good port to get lost, i.e. lots of places to go from there where you can't be found.
AHM
NES Member
Maybe the people in Taiwan who would sign such a treaty have a deep seated fear that it wouldn't take much of a wind shift for them to be the first ones extradited to the US for <whatever>.
That still seems like a thought crime to me. Who is to say what the intent of the travel was, unless they somehow made it clear by telling people about it? Someone could travel for a tropical beach vacation, then while there decide to bang a child. Not that that is good at all, but this "law" stuff is just bizarre.
mibro
NES Member
That works too. Teenage girl discovers sex and that men will pay for it. Collects the cash and then throws her customer(s) under the bus. The stupid little slut will walk scot-free too.
I wonder if they're charging her other customers?
Or maybe I'm just naive and this is a cover story.
Well, that's because of "Reasonable Person" principle, at one extent, often ends up placing limitations on criminal law and the extent of its reach/tentacles.
EG: a "Reasonable Person" going into an adult video store and buying one of those videos assumes that it's not kiddy porn, etc. Not to mention it's completely impossible for said porn buyer to have known (or even attempt to determine!) that she was underage at the time.
On the other hand, when a numbskull buys a barely used $1200 TV on Offerup from some ghetto life type for $100, a reasonable person would assume that "the TV is probably stolen" and shouldn't be surprised when the local cops show up looking for it, and shouldn't be surprised when they get charged for "receiving stolen property" or similar.
In this particular case in this thread, Wilson might have even been able to use that if something like this happened- say he took this girl to a bar (before they had sex) and she ordered herself a drink, and was carded by the bartender who then served her. A reasonable person would then assume, with relative safety, that the girl was 21+ at that point, because it could be argued that even if Wilson had "carded" her, that he also would have believed the fake ID as well.
-Mike
Last edited:
Similar threads
