Comm2A Sues Boston Police over Passports

[Royal]

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Well, it's a bittersweet victory. We were entitled to judgement in this case and we didn't get it. BPD continues to deny that it was ever their 'policy' to refuse to honor US passports and still maintains that this only happened because a couple officers didn't understand the policy. (They're quick to throw their own under the bus) Okay, so if it wasn't 'policy', it WAS long-standing practice. I remember clearing being told by the officer (retired and name withheld) that I HAD to produce a birth certificate and that my passport was no good.

 

[icyclefar]

This is how life goes sometimes.

Do not underestimate the power of the message sent however.

They got spanked, and they know it.

 

[jasons]

We will be smacking around any other town that pulls the same bull shit too.

What's stopping these other cities from pulling the same crap? (Or BPD from making the same "mistake" next month for that matter?)

 

[terraformer]

What's stopping these other cities from pulling the same crap? (Or BPD from making the same "mistake" next month for that matter?)

Nothing is stopping them, but that's why we wanted the judgement.

 

[jasons]

Nothing is stopping them, but that's why we wanted the judgement.

Got it, thought I was missing something.

 

[terraformer]

Got it, thought I was missing something.

If they do it, we file again. I will sit here all day playing this game with them. I win in the end.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

What's stopping these other cities from pulling the same crap? (Or BPD from making the same "mistake" next month for that matter?)

Nothing is stopping them, but that's why we wanted the judgement.

But, they are on notice.

This is how life goes sometimes.

Do not underestimate the power of the message sent however.

They got spanked, and they know it.

I know, you're right. Thanks for that.

 

[Palladin]

Nice

 

[Len-2A Training]

Good work.

 

[Friday]

Schweet! Many thanks to Comm2A!

 

[PaulR]

 

[92G]

Props on the strong work!

Too bad BPD would love to keep fighting stupid battles with the law abiding folks than pursue actual criminals.

Boston Strong

 

[OfficerObie59]

Whatever Stearn's decision, a guy got his license using his passport.

It wasn't the victory we all wanted but a victory nonetheless.

 

[the_shootist]

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Nice shout-out from Eugene Volokh:

Naturalized citizens and guns: A victory in Massachusetts

Glad to see this victory, both for the rights of naturalized citizens and the right to bear arms, and congratulations to Commonwealth Second Amendment.

 

[beaker]

Great work guys. We are lucky to have you on our side. You guys are real, modern day, 3%'ers.

Sent from my Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk Pro - typos are from the GD auto correct unless they are funny substitutions those I'll take credit for.

 

[anon2424]

Ngo here, I have received my LTC in the mail. It's great that my first post after all this is GREAT SUCCESS. Thank you!

 

[Matt_SERE]

Congratulations. Thanks for contacting/trusting Comm2A! They are exactly what we need.

 

[Mbian1122]

Congrats!!!

 

[Greek]

So my brother in law is a naturalized citizen and I believe Arlington can be added to the list . He has passport and hasn't applied should he get in contact with u fine folks ?

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

So my brother in law is a naturalized citizen and I believe Arlington can be added to the list . He has passport and hasn't applied should he get in contact with u fine folks ?

Yes, have him contact us ([email protected]). Although I don't think he'll have a problem with Arlington. I had a family of three as recent students and their application process was VERY simple and easy.

 

[terraformer]

Here is the first original thread that started this suit.

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vb...nied-my-2a-because-I-m-a-second-class-citizen

 

[Coyote33]

Here is the first original thread that started this suit.

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vb...nied-my-2a-because-I-m-a-second-class-citizen

This is good stuff. The two threads should just be merged together.

I wish the same people who got wine approved for mail order in MA could do the same thing for ammunition and "other things".

 

[DrNVP]

I stopped by my PD for renewal and was initially not allowed to proceed due to my lack of naturalization papers. Like Mr. Ngo, I was born outside the US and derived my US citizenship as a minor when my parents were naturalized. Thus, I have no naturalization papers or a US birth certificate. PD stated I could not proceed without either of these papers. I do have a valid US passport that I presented, to no avail.

I was about to leave when the person working the desk at the last minute found a handwritten note in her ledger book stating that US passports were to be accepted for proof of citizenship. Regardless, I did have to come back at a later date to do the renewal as my expiration date is not for 6 months.

However, this concerns me that departments still don't know. What if I come back in 4 months to do the renewal for real and somebody else processing the application simply doesn't know or doesn't remember?

 

[swatgig]

I stopped by my PD for renewal and was initially not allowed to proceed due to my lack of naturalization papers. Like Mr. Ngo, I was born outside the US and derived my US citizenship as a minor when my parents were naturalized. Thus, I have no naturalization papers or a US birth certificate. PD stated I could not proceed without either of these papers. I do have a valid US passport that I presented, to no avail.

I was about to leave when the person working the desk at the last minute found a handwritten note in her ledger book stating that US passports were to be accepted for proof of citizenship. Regardless, I did have to come back at a later date to do the renewal as my expiration date is not for 6 months.

However, this concerns me that departments still don't know. What if I come back in 4 months to do the renewal for real and somebody else processing the application simply doesn't know or doesn't remember?

Please contact Comm2a and let them know what town it was.

 

[mark056]

So essentially, an applicant had to prove he's not here on a visa or is an illegal alien. While it may indeed be a statutory requirement, it really smacks of a "papers, please" mentality.

Makes me wonder if they'd have him do so if his last name wasn't Ngo.

I'm speculating that if his last name began with an o instead of ended with one somehow there would be an exception to policy

 

[DrNVP]

Please contact Comm2a and let them know what town it was.

done and done

 

[terraformer]

done and done

Then let us know immediately if you have a problem in a few months when you apply "for real".

 

[wolfenkraft]

Just so you guys know, was looking at the Natick instructions and it says need to bring passport or birth certificate.