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I'm sure you're right. It was 2013/4 when I was talking to Johnny about getting that to happen.
And thats my point, people justifying the high prices and pretending its normal even though I can link numerous examples of actual "free state prices"..My friend in NH said his final cost on that $220 complete Aero M4 lower with free shipping would be $245 from his FFL.
Arent Anderson clamshell packaging lowers like $40? lol Edit: Anderson stripped lower from Primary is $48 -12% sale they always have.. Sure if I dig harder I could find free shipping
Anyone buying at retail doesn't expect to get an "internet" price. (Well, at least if they not retarded) It's pretty "normal" to see price stratification. Not to mention some retail operations value their time more than others. (There's a different time value cost for selling the product vs just doing a transfer, too).
Even an NH FFL selling a poverty pony for under $100 to a walk in is basically just punching themselves in the dick and/or leaving cash on the table. And the enthusiast guy that wanted to get his build done that weekend is still going to come in, bite his tongue and buy your lower when his skinflint special from puds/psa got stuck in transit or sent to a crack house across town, so there's that....
It's not functionally any different from Cumberland Farms deciding to not sell bottles of Coke for $0.50 or something.
people are just lazy. Not all that long ago (long before covid, though) I used to negotiate with cash and a few different dealers in mass and NH and get pretty good prices. I'd buy the captive audience excuse if there was a border wall around the state, but there isn't. It literally only exists in the mind of MA townies that are too lazy to drive anywhere.
When I seen that bumper sticker, that was the last time.. It was the old shop.. Have not been there since.IMO TSUSA didn't really change hard MA floor pricing, it just made reasonable priced anmo more accessible/convenient. There are still B&M vendors that will get in the wheelhouse of TS, but you have to be picky.... people like to b**** and moan about being in Mass but honestly with regards to ammo most of these people either don't know how to talk to people like humans and carry a bit of cash or they also don't know how to drive.... especially considering like 50% of the state is probably within 1 to 2 hours of the steepest discounter of ammo in New England.....
That's a whole other ball of wax, that's a poorly thought out risk aversion strategy. That's one of those places I just don't step in the door though I don't think I've been in there since way back when Paul still owned it. It's just a meh box store with none of the box store junk benefits LOL....
One or 2 boxes sure, why drive up north? But when I would buy 2 cases just about every other weekend, I'll travel 90 minutes... Pretty sure I posted the prices on here back in the day, but people loved going to 4Seasons....Man that is so true. I can't tell you how many people I've met who want to buy an offlist pistol or AR lower and once I tell them they need to drive just under an hour from Glosta, they lose interestor they also don't know how to drive.... especially considering like 50% of the state is probably within 1 to 2 hours of the steepest discounter of ammo in New England.....
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The other fun trick with Riley's is that they would actually troll the s*** out of people with that ammo which was actually pretty great once you understood what was going on like the pallet in the store with the ammo on it was never actually full they would just put a few cases on there and watch it disappear and then it would only stay empty for a short while and then magically more would materialize on the pallet later, but the appearance of the pallet made think "oh its going fast i better buy it now" but it was a good deal regardless. One time I bought like the 2nd to last case, some guy behind me bought one. Then I left the shop, got lunch somewhere, and came back, and more was on the floor...
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bought another one... Man that is so true. I can't tell you how many people I've met who want to buy an offlist pistol or AR lower and once I tell them they need to drive just under an hour from Glosta, they lose interest
I knew a guy at my club looking for decently priced 223/5.56 ammo as he "can't find any"....When Norma had a sale on their 223 for 42 cpr shipped and I explained to him he just needs to ship to the UPS Store in Salem NH, he said that sounds like a PITA and he'll keep checking with Four Seasons...
Same with another guy at my club looking for "cheap" 6mm creedmoor ammo. Gave him links to online vendors that don't ship to MA so he needs to ship to the UPS Store, nope I'll keep paying way more from "Larry"
And these aren't guys who have 3 kids and work 70 hours a week either - those people I understand time is an issue.
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Jesus. God help these peopleI still remember a PM convo I had with some guy on here many years ago. He posted a whine in a thread about "glocks" about "how every glock 36 was like 700 dollars" and then I PMed him a link to TWO DIFFERENT classified ads from western mass (like near springfield, not full blown all the way like exit 2 western mass) where the sellers had guns in GREAT condition in the 400s range. Response "DATS TOO FAHR!" basically im like jesus christ kehd my time is worth a lot too, but thats like 3 hundo less than the thing you were just bitching about 4 hrs ago...
You wrote "poverty pony". Be prepared for your PM inbox to be filled with offers to spend the night and shoot 6.5 Creedmoor in the morning.
There was literally like 4 iterations of that shop, The old tiny shop (in Paul's house, at the time) and then he put up the Barn and moved it in there. Then at some point after that it changed owners. Then after that the new owner moved it to the new building, etc. (I think this was a few years ago, but this is just based on what ive seen posted here).
The other fun trick with Riley's is that they would actually troll the s*** out of people with that ammo which was actually pretty great once you understood what was going on like the pallet in the store with the ammo on it was never actually full they would just put a few cases on there and watch it disappear and then it would only stay empty for a short while and then magically more would materialize on the pallet later, but the appearance of the pallet made think "oh its going fast i better buy it now" but it was a good deal regardless. One time I bought like the 2nd to last case, some guy behind me bought one. Then I left the shop, got lunch somewhere, and came back, and more was on the floor...
I don't remember Rileys ever being that cheap though. the number I remember was more like $149 or $159 a loaf, but I bet early-early 2000s it was cheaper than that at
times.
Also this is hard to believe but DTE/4S used to be great on some kinds of ammo. I remember buying cases of GT for $76 there. But then the demo of the shop shifted over time, and I don't blame them for not wanting to leave that cash on the table. I would take the "drooling, deli ticket munching, 4S townie groaner I dont wanna drive nowhea" cash too, and I would still sleep soundly at night doing it.
Average newer DTE customer = (this character voiced by Bill Burr)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4KH4_AVeAY
The best part is that if you do value your time at more than (e.g.) $100/hr, you have less reason to whine about something that costs "too much." Put in a couple extra hours and buy it already. Yeah, it's not "fair" - life is tough; get a helmet.I still remember a PM convo I had with some guy on here many years ago. He posted a whine in a thread about "glocks" about "how every glock 36 was like 700 dollars" and then I PMed him a link to TWO DIFFERENT classified ads from western mass (like near springfield, not full blown all the way like exit 2 western mass) where the sellers had guns in GREAT condition in the 400s range. Response "DATS TOO FAHR!" basically im like jesus christ kehd my time is worth a lot too, but thats like 3 hundo less than the thing you were just bitching about 4 hrs ago...
This is what I get for joining late, right? I hear these stories and it sounds likeYes those were the days. I would empty those stupid 20 rd boxes of 762 x 39 into 30 cal ammo cans, you could fit like 500rds of x39 in a can. id take one of those with me and burn through probably half the can, lol. we also had a ritual wherein we had to burn off at least 500 rounds of 22LR per session. Sometimes it was more than that. Golden bullet, $8.99....
Kind of the reverse logic of people that drive 100 miles away to save money on something but end up eating the savings in gas lolI still remember a PM convo I had with some guy on here many years ago. He posted a whine in a thread about "glocks" about "how every glock 36 was like 700 dollars" and then I PMed him a link to TWO DIFFERENT classified ads from western mass (like near springfield, not full blown all the way like exit 2 western mass) where the sellers had guns in GREAT condition in the 400s range. Response "DATS TOO FAHR!" basically im like jesus christ kehd my time is worth a lot too, but thats like 3 hundo less than the thing you were just bitching about 4 hrs ago...
I think he's talking about the folks that'll drive 20 miles to save 5 cents per gallon on gas. Really? So in exchange for $1 off your 20 gallon tank, you wasted an hour of your life and a gallon of gas...If your vehicle uses that much gas you have bigger problems. A lot of times the price deltas are huge. Or in other cases dealers would have products not offered.
Hell back in the day I used to go to Rileys once a month just to get prinmers etc, and that was 120 mile round trip. NBD, still cost me less than 20 bucks in gas. Even today it wouldnt
be much more.
In that case, the glock whiner from the loop would have made out like a bandit. He could have driven a school bus down the pike and back and he still would have saved $200.
Epic video potential!AHKCHUALLY I am driving in that region soon. I should try to buy ammo at PSA and see if they "chase me out into the parking lot cuz MA plates" like that other guy on here.
If your vehicle uses that much gas you have bigger problems. A lot of times the price deltas are huge. Or in other cases dealers would have products not offered.
Hell back in the day I used to go to Rileys once a month just to get primers etc, and that was 120 mile round trip. NBD, still cost me less than 20 bucks in gas. Even today it wouldnt
be much more. (if they still existed)
In that case, the glock whiner from the loop would have made out like a bandit. He could have driven a school bus down the pike and back and he still would have saved $200.
I think it was $70 in MA and $35 or $40 in Nashua.
If I didn't have better things to do on vacation id troll the shit out of them with an accomplice.
Does 4 Seasons have an aerosolized cocaine dispenser in the HVAC system or something? They have some seriously dedicated customers. I know someone who will not go to the closest store, and will not go to Littleton, but will always go to 4 Seasons when buying ammo. Even when I point out cheaper, closer options.Man that is so true. I can't tell you how many people I've met who want to buy an offlist pistol or AR lower and once I tell them they need to drive just under an hour from Glosta, they lose interest
I knew a guy at my club looking for decently priced 223/5.56 ammo as he "can't find any"....When Norma had a sale on their 223 for 42 cpr shipped and I explained to him he just needs to ship to the UPS Store in Salem NH, he said that sounds like a PITA and he'll keep checking with Four Seasons...
Same with another guy at my club looking for "cheap" 6mm creedmoor ammo. Gave him links to online vendors that don't ship to MA so he needs to ship to the UPS Store, nope I'll keep paying way more from "Larry"
And these aren't guys who have 3 kids and work 70 hours a week either - those people I understand time is an issue.
Gonna be going down east coast to FL. West is November..... Vegas
