Condition 1 Carry Poll

[Dench]

Gotta practice however you choose to carry.

You're doing both, as youve stated. which is by far worst case scenario.

 

[Rick O'Shea]

Carrying an unloaded gun is the same as not carrying any gun,.. Good luck with that.

 

[SgtHal75]

I think everyone getting COVID is making people stupid.

I am basing this on the recent amount of stupid threads on NES asking about high cap mags, leaving guns unattended, carrying condition 1 or not ...

 

[SgtHal75]

I think it’s time we talk about what side we carry our taser on and what side we carry our gun on…lot of problems with this stuff lately.

Condition 1 all day every day or don’t carry

 

[Palladin]

another 'out yourself' thread

 

[FalArAk]

Ever get mauled by a bear?

Not every one hangs out in cities... keep one in the pips

I carry loaded, but will never call it pointless to carry unloaded unless you are a cop or working armed security.

 

[Garys]

So carrying a Glock with one in the chamber is Condition Zero?

It does.

 

[n1oty]

I avoid high risk areas whenever possible.

I avoid an empty chamber.

 

[moojpg2]

Winner! Jack.

Yup this is why I carry my wallet in my left pocket, left hand to take out wallet, right hand to promptly shoot mugger in the face while he is distracted reaching for my wallet.

 

[Tallahassee]

Never gets old.

 

[safetyfirst2125]

Carrying an unloaded gun is the same as not carrying any gun,.. Good luck with that.

Probably worse. It can taken from you, racked and used on you.

 

[enbloc]

But… if I don’t rack the slide when I draw, how will the bad guys know I’m serious if they don’t hear the slide slam shut

When he hears harps...

 

[92G]

why only keep the chamber empty? That’s foolhardy. Definitely not safe enough. the magazine should be topped off with a snap cap. that way it take 2 slide rackings to use the pistol. Two is safer than one. Is why I carry 2 rape whistles.

 

[whacko]

So carrying a Glock with one in the chamber is Condition Zero?

No. Carrying a glock with one on the chamber is just the correct way to do it.

This os for the OP:

Condition 1 2 3 on a 1911 refers alot with the position of the hammer and safety......neither of which a glock has.

1 is round in chamber, hammer cocked safety on.

2 is round in chamber hammer down safety off (for obvious reasons)

 

[kalash]

why only keep the chamber empty? That’s foolhardy. Definitely not safe enough. the magazine should be topped off with a snap cap. that way it take 2 slide rackings to use the pistol. Two is safer than one. Is why I carry 2 rape whistles.

You have to make sure you truly want to shoot someone. Carry a 17 round mag with sixteen snap caps followed by a single live round. Bonus points if the mag is post-94.

 

[Tallahassee]

OP, just leave your gun at home, it's safer that way.

 

[Buck F]

I carry with one in the chamber. While I disagree with those who don't carry with one in the pipe, it's a personal decision and I still think you're better off having the gun on you even without one in the chamber.

But situational carry where you carry w/ one in the pipe under some circumstances but not others is just plain stupid.

 

[jkelly1229]

I carry loaded, but will never call it pointless to carry unloaded unless you are a cop or working armed security.

I will lol

1. You're not carrying as many rounds as possible in a handgun. Moar bullets is better.

2. Youre intentionally introducing another point of failure to a stressful situation. Its well known motor skills decrease under stress. Now you introduce several potential problems that can arise.

3. Youre now not focused on aiming and getting a propper grip immediately when the need arises.

Idk is having a gun without one in the chamber better than not having one yes.

However if I'm pulling my gun out I'm intending to shoot something. And whatever that something is I'm going to do my damn best to stack the odds in my favor

 

[jkelly1229]

OP, just leave your gun at home, it's safer that way.

Keep it next to the marital aid

 

[Soundwave]

Is there such a thing as a reverse trigger job? Like make the trigger hard to pull so you feel more comfortable with it loaded? I think I'd rather go that route lol

 

[jkelly1229]

Is there such a thing as a reverse trigger job? Like make the trigger hard to pull so you feel more comfortable with it loaded? I think I'd rather go that route lol

Lol yeah if you like making a bunch of noise... go ask the nypd how that works for them

 

[Matt_SERE]

Is this real life?

View: https://youtu.be/txqiwrbYGrs?t=16

 

[Yosemite Sam]

Wat da faque is a ten round mag !

Do people actually carry them?

Seriously ?

 

[AJK129]

I carry a pinned mag glock, have to reload through the ejection port. Somedays I don't feel like loading in a full 5 rounds so I just carry it completely empty. The looks should scare people enough

 

[looser38]

Is this real life?

PINCH, PINCH. Yep, it's real

 

[looser38]

A pistol without a round in the chamber is like a limp dick, useless.

Well the limp dick issue was addressed in an earlier thread.
For the record, the attempt to remedy it........
well, let's just say, I bet they won't do that again.

 

[looser38]

To answer op's question, YES.

 

[Broc]

I carry loaded, but will never call it pointless to carry unloaded unless you are a cop or working armed security.

1. Go green.

2. Have you seen how fast someone can cover the distance in a self defense situation?... we are not talking about the OP engaging a threat 50 yards away.

To that, you have to add the added time to move the shirt out of the way and draw, this takes time. Add having to rack the slide, and you are probably dead.

A USPSA competitor shooter, someone that is above average but not the best and has a nice competition rig with no obstructions takes just under 1 second from draw to shoot. Keep in mind, this is using a competition rig that barely holds the gun, no shirt removal, no twisting of the body (if you are carrying at the 4 or 5 o'clock).

Let's assume in a defense situation carrying concealed it takes double that time, lets call it 2 seconds. Racking the slide probably adds at least half a second. (And hope the slide doesn't slip and you have to rack it again).

Go outside and see how much distance you can cover in 2.5 seconds.

2.5 seconds is probably very generous as most people barely practice.

 

[G4Y4HK]

I'm too much of a pussy to carry striker guns chambered. Sure, there's plenty of "internal safeties" and the trigger has a nipple safety and your finger is the safety, just get a proper fitting kydex holster bro blah blah. But you can't rule out the possibility, even infintismally remote that a clothing thread couldn't get in the trigger guard or something being able to depress it.

DA/SA hammer guns only for me and preferably with a frame thumb safety as well. Doesn't need two hands (or a tacticool rear sight rack) to get that first round off and I've trained enough to sweep the thumb safety down on the draw on instinct. Slight plus is if you ever get disarmed by a gun n00b and they try to shoot you, you stand more for a chance of surviving and being able to do something about it if the bad guy doesn't know to sweep the safety down. Not much you can do if he takes your Glock or VP9 from you. I guess I'm just not elite tactical enough like a lot of NES to carry striker guns chambered lol.

 

[Laderbuilt]

My carry is always chambered and full mag. In my early days of gun ownership I was hesitant, as my knowledge and experience grew, I realized it’s of no worry and carry locked and loaded so to speak.