Considering a H&K USP..... Give me your thoughts

[Rate_of_Twist]

I have wanted a USP since before I ever even had my permit ( and before I realized the issues with getting them in ma ) I have run through and have or had a lot of other semi pistols and have never really "loved" and of them. So, I'm considering diving into a USP. I currently shoot .380, 9mm, and 45 and I have no desire to add an additional caliber so brand new is not an option.

What are your thoughts on the 9mm and 45 usp models? I would prefer the 45, but finding one under 600 seems to be an issue ( $600 is the most I will spend on a usp,and I would prefer to be closer to 500)

Im looking for a durable, soft shooting, full size, that I like the ergo of

 

[josh2600]

snake approves.

 

[NHKevin]

I have a fullsize USP 45 that I am very happy with. Mine happens to have the stainless slide. I have an OWB holster for it as well as a shoulder rig.

 

[Rate_of_Twist]

snake approves.

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[nheric]

I carry a USP 45c everday its a great gun i trust my life to

 

[SPG]

Off duty, I carry a uspc 357 lem more than anything. Small, compact and holds a handful of kickass rounds. ( Gold Dots )
Works for me. . Spg

 

[PaulD]

I think you're going to have a really difficult time finding a USP for that price in MA, but I could be wrong.

FWIW, I have an HK45 and it's excellent.

 

[drgrant]

$600 is a good price for a USP in a free state, never mind MA. Anything lower than that and you're probably getting into beater-gun territory or someone doesn't know what they have. Bargaining to $500? the seller is going to usually laugh at you. (Or at least, I would). If your that much of a skinflint on the price of the gun, then you REALLY are gonna hate the price of the magazines when you find them.

How big are your hands? If you have oven mitts, you will like the USP .45. If you have small hands, then do yourself a favor and forget about it, or stick to the 9mm. The .45 will not be "soft shooting" unless you have the hands of a gorilla. (It won't sting like the .45 Compact does, but it'll be muzzle flippy if you have small hands. )

I would suggest test firing either before buying.

-Mike

 

[newportri]

I was close to buying one a couple of years ago in .45ACP, but the only thing I didn't like was the mag release, so I ended up with an FNP-45 instead. They were also pretty expensive, close to $900 for the model I was looking at.

 

[ochmude]

I can't speak for the USP, but I've put about 2500 rounds through a P2000 over the past 2 months and it's run like a champ. I have absolutely nothing negative to say about it other than the LEM trigger having a lot of slack. But that's something you get used to pretty quickly.

 

[Rate_of_Twist]

Ya know, I think I made a mistake in my mass law understanding..... a h&k usp needs to have been documented in the state before the 98 ag BS because it's NOT on "the list" unlike a glock that only needs to be mfg before the 98 regs to be transfered via FFL

Is this statement correct???

I had been looking up USP's online by their date code and it seemed not to difficult to get a pre 98 under 600, but if I'm understanding correctly I still will not be able to have it transfered via ffl

 

[drgrant]

Ya know, I think I made a mistake in my mass law understanding..... a h&k usp needs to have been documented in the state before the 98 ag BS because it's NOT on "the list" unlike a glock that only needs to be mfg before the 98 regs to be transfered via FFL

Is this statement correct???

I had been looking up USP's online by their date code and it seemed not to difficult to get a pre 98 under 600, but if I'm understanding correctly I still will not be able to have it transfered via ffl

Yes, USP 45s must be "papered pre-98 exempt", which is the most difficult class of exemption. That said, you need to use the MA FFL as the determinant and not the law, because they're the final arbiter WRT handgun compliance BS anyways- not to mention the law really only applies to them, not you... so if by some miracle, they make a mistake in your favor, then so
be it...

-Mike

 

[Rate_of_Twist]

Yes, USP 45s must be "papered pre-98 exempt", which is the most difficult class of exemption. That said, you need to use the MA FFL as the determinant and not the law, because they're the final arbiter WRT handgun compliance BS anyways- not to mention the law really only applies to them, not you... so if by some miracle, they make a mistake in your favor, then so
be it...

-Mike

Well, indeed im a cheap bastard with handguns so that for all purposes kills that idea.

I laugh everytime I read more mass laws, as the scenario described above is nearly imnpossible to enforce. The research involved on the states part to find out if a gun was registered in this state when a new sale is being recorded/registered would be insane. Not to mention does the state actually verify by serial number all the glock sales to verify compliance???

oh well

 

[josh2600]

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[Rate_of_Twist]

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ok, sorry but ??????? still no clue

 

[drgrant]

I laugh everytime I read more mass laws, as the scenario described above is nearly imnpossible to enforce. The research involved on the states part to find out if a gun was registered in this state when a new sale is being recorded/registered would be insane. Not to mention does the state actually verify by serial number all the glock sales to verify compliance???

No, the state doesn't do a damned thing in terms of "auditing", but if somehow, a dealer gets caught violating the regs they can face heavy fines, or if they're lucky, just whining from the AG's office, depending on circumstances.

-Mike

 

[chinalfr]

I think you can find used USP in 40 in MA. If you look harder, USP in 9mm can be found within six bills.


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[PaulD]

I laugh everytime I read more mass laws, as the scenario described above is nearly imnpossible to enforce. The research involved on the states part to find out if a gun was registered in this state when a new sale is being recorded/registered would be insane. Not to mention does the state actually verify by serial number all the glock sales to verify compliance???

oh well

That's not the point though. The point is to put FUD into the heads of the dealers and, further, to limit the number of guns sold here. It's a partial gun ban.