CT friend coming to MA

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So if my research here is correct my friend who’s only licensed in CT can not bring his handgun and ammo with him into MA. Possession would be illegal and he’s not going to a competition or qualifying event. Or headed to another New England state etc. We just want to go to the range together here in MA.

I’m licensed in both states, is it accurate to say I could meet him in CT. Take possession of his handgun and ammo and return them to him at the end of his trip in CT? He’s the registered owner of the handgun. And I’d take possession prior to and while he’s in MA?

Yeah lots of driving but he's a new gun owner and we’d like to use his handgun at the range here in MA. And no I’m not buying the same model he has here in MA.

Thoughts?
 
hpm said:
I would skip the trip to CT to meet him there - no one is going to search his car at the MA border...
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Unless, for instance, he suffers a medical emergency while driving in MA and needs to be transported. Car will have to be towed, and an inventory of car contents is mandatory before towing.

Or maybe stopped in MA for traffic violation and it turns out he has a warrant out of West Nowhere, CT, for unpaid traffic tickets. Warrant would require his arrest in MA, which would require car tow, etc.

Or he stops at HoJo's for a cuppa (don't I wish) and his car is stolen. In order to preserve his CT permits, he is required to report to CT authorities the theft of his weapon in MA. CT elects to report to MA.

Or any number of other possible scenarios.

In general, unsound advice.
 
Not sure of the absolute legality of it all ... I was being told this by a detective in the state police (so this advice wouldn't matter with an arresting officer's descretion, they would want the arrest). AND this was MA residents visiting a gun club in CT. I really doubt MA would extend the same courtesy.

The point was that "training" was a legitimate purpose to which an out of state individual could bring their firearms into the state. Shooting at a "legitimate" gun range can be understood to be training. All the other rules still applied, such as direct travel to and from, store items in the trunk, etc.

In this case, the legitimate (yet private) gun range was a gun club that otherwise regularly hosted safety and educational courses as well as competitions. This officer's position was sited to assure MA citizens to become members in this CT gun club AND actually use it outside of open-to-public events.
 
RKG said:
Unless, for instance, he suffers a medical emergency while driving in MA and needs to be transported. Car will have to be towed, and an inventory of car contents is mandatory before towing.

Or maybe stopped in MA for traffic violation and it turns out he has a warrant out of West Nowhere, CT, for unpaid traffic tickets. Warrant would require his arrest in MA, which would require car tow, etc.

Or he stops at HoJo's for a cuppa (don't I wish) and his car is stolen. In order to preserve his CT permits, he is required to report to CT authorities the theft of his weapon in MA. CT elects to report to MA.

Or any number of other possible scenarios.

In general, unsound advice.
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This. Just meet him and throw the case in your vehicle
 
RKG said:
Unless, for instance, he suffers a medical emergency while driving in MA and needs to be transported. Car will have to be towed, and an inventory of car contents is mandatory before towing.

Or maybe stopped in MA for traffic violation and it turns out he has a warrant out of West Nowhere, CT, for unpaid traffic tickets. Warrant would require his arrest in MA, which would require car tow, etc.

Or he stops at HoJo's for a cuppa (don't I wish) and his car is stolen. In order to preserve his CT permits, he is required to report to CT authorities the theft of his weapon in MA. CT elects to report to MA.

Or any number of other possible scenarios.

In general, unsound advice.
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In all those scenarios he would just have been on his way to NH or ME...passing through MA.
 
Cphobes said:
Nothing AT ALL.
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Fixed that for you.

Over It Smh GIF
 
Doesn't the new laws require that the gun be registered when coming into MA regardless of who possesses/owns it (other than an FFL). Or is that part on hold.

BTW this isn't an endorsement of the law just an acknowledgement of it. (can't believe I have to say this to keep the trolls at bay)
 
42! said:
Doesn't the new laws require that the gun be registered when coming into MA regardless of who possesses/owns it (other than an FFL). Or is that part on hold.

BTW this isn't an endorsement of the law just an acknowledgement of it. (can't believe I have to say this to keep the trolls at bay)
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No idea on the law and we don't intend to sell/transfer it. He's new and likes the taurus, not my first choice but I've fired some G models from Taurus and they shoot well enough to get the job done.

I'm quite happy with my Shield+ at the moment.
 
42! said:
Doesn't the new laws require that the gun be registered when coming into MA regardless of who possesses/owns it (other than an FFL). Or is that part on hold.
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Since the new system specified in the law doesn't exist everything wrt registration is technically on hold but i will not be shocked when eops releases an edict saying to keep using mircs.... 🤣
 
42! said:
Doesn't the new laws require that the gun be registered when coming into MA regardless of who possesses/owns it (other than an FFL). Or is that part on hold.

BTW this isn't an endorsement of the law just an acknowledgement of it. (can't believe I have to say this to keep the trolls at bay)
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I bring mine in weekly to go to the range. Leave a couple hours later.

If you don't have to report a loan of less than 7 days, then I see no sense in doing it for a couple hours

I will not comply
 
RKG said:
I suppose, so long as he was willing to commit perjury.
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If he's only in MA for a few hours, he was on his way from one point in CT to another point in CT and his travel went via MA. No plans to stay overnight.

As long as it's locked in the trunk in compliance with FOPA, he SHOULD be okay.
 
AaronT said:
If he's only in MA for a few hours, he was on his way from one point in CT to another point in CT and his travel went via MA. No plans to stay overnight.

As long as it's locked in the trunk in compliance with FOPA, he SHOULD be okay.
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I suggest that you read the actual law (FOPA). Stopping in MA even for an hour negates FOPA protection.
 
AaronT said:
If he's only in MA for a few hours, he was on his way from one point in CT to another point in CT and his travel went via MA. No plans to stay overnight.

As long as it's locked in the trunk in compliance with FOPA, he SHOULD be okay.
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He's coming for the weekend. And as someone else said it would be a grey area.

Lying to the police and trying to skirt under FOPA really isn't an option though I appreciate the creativeness. :)
 
Len-2A Training said:
I suggest that you read the actual law (FOPA). Stopping in MA even for an hour negates FOPA protection.
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I guess i need to read the actual FOPA.

Also- listen to anything Len2A says about gun law stuff. He's an aknowledged font of good information. Acknowledged by most all the folks who have been here far longer than I have.
 
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AaronT said:
I guess i need to read the actual FOPA.

Also- listen to anything Len2A says about gun law stuff. He's an aknowledged font of good information. Acknowledged by most all the folks who have been here far longer than I have.
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FOPA protects you in 48 states even though it says 50. Try getting pulled over near NYC or anywhere in NJ with unloaded, locked guns in your trunk. Still very likely getting cuffed and booked.
 
RKG said:
Unless, for instance, he suffers a medical emergency while driving in MA and needs to be transported. Car will have to be towed, and an inventory of car contents is mandatory before towing.

Or maybe stopped in MA for traffic violation and it turns out he has a warrant out of West Nowhere, CT, for unpaid traffic tickets. Warrant would require his arrest in MA, which would require car tow, etc.

Or he stops at HoJo's for a cuppa (don't I wish) and his car is stolen. In order to preserve his CT permits, he is required to report to CT authorities the theft of his weapon in MA. CT elects to report to MA.

Or any number of other possible scenarios.

In general, unsound advice.
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Or he gets rear ended by a state trooper and his trunk pops open 😂
 
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