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Hmm.. Looks like some nice pistols. Do those Shadows really go for $1200ish? If so I think I'll stick with my Sig. (yikes!)
Except that an X5 (the only Sig pistol approaching the same class) will cost you a hell of a lot more than $1200 these days. Not to mention I'd bet nearly anything the SA sears in most of the CZ pistols are likely way better than anything in most of the Non-X series Sigs you find nowadays. (Maybe I have exceptionally bad luck, but with only a couple of exceptions, most of the typical P-series Sigs I've tried, they SA all breaks at over 5 pounds.... meh. )
-Mike
Of course the ones that the competitive shooters really want CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Custom isn't on the list. It's probably the lack of firing pin block or the low volume.
Most accurate 9mm that I own. The reason it is not on the list is probably because it comes with 19 round mags. You can get them to ship 10 or 15 round mags instead. that is what I did.
Do CZ's come with a mag disconnect, 10+ lb DA trigger, or loaded chamber indicator?
CZ also makes an SA only version of the normal 75. With the SA trigger, 4.7" barrel and slide design, that has a lot of promise as a cheap alternative to an X5.
http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-75-b-sa/
Except that an X5 (the only Sig pistol approaching the same class) will cost you a hell of a lot more than $1200 these days. Not to mention I'd bet nearly anything the SA sears in most of the CZ pistols are likely way better than anything in most of the Non-X series Sigs you find nowadays. (Maybe I have exceptionally bad luck, but with only a couple of exceptions, most of the typical P-series Sigs I've tried, they SA all breaks at over 5 pounds.... meh. )
-Mike
The SiG X series are very large and heavy and not great if you have small hands. The CZ's on the other hand fit like a glove no matter how big or small your hands are. This is the reason I love CZ'S.
The SiG X series are very large and heavy and not great if you have small hands. The CZ's on the other hand fit like a glove no matter how big or small your hands are. This is the reason I love CZ'S.
The X5 is large and heavy but as double stack pistols go, it's fairly easy to grip for people with small hands. The stock plastic grips are quite thin and it's quite a bit easier than a stock 226. I think you need to try one again.
CZ-USA.com Representative just emailed me saying that CZ hand guns are in process to be added to MA roster. He confirmed that all the handguns on the approved california roster are in process for sure.
I have small hands and I had no trouble with it. Then again it's all about perspective. I had an HK MK23 that was gigantic and I still found running that gun to be easier than running it's smaller USP counterparts.
-Mike
Besides he had wood grips on each one and they are very large so maybe the plastic grips are better but as custom shop guns go they don't use cheap plastic grips and I have never shot any of those with plastic grips.
Did you sell the MK 23? I've been lucky enough to fire this gun several times and I've never enjoyed another firearm half as much! A 45 with the recoil of a 22. How could anyone not love this .
By 'in process' you must mean 'CZ has had internal discussions about it'.
Not to be the turd in the punchbowl here but I have it on good authority that CZ hasn't even submitted an application to the GCAB yet.
I wouldn't get my hopes up too much.
The guy did also say to look for them later this year. It's just a tid bit of information directly from the company.
I'm not holding my breath either but I'm optimistic. Why would he lie to me? To piss me off? He entertained 2 more emails from me after the first one that had all this info in it.
Time to un-ban Scrivener (Atty. Keith Langer). If he were not banned from the forums, he could have directly posted his first hand knowledge that there has been no submission from the factory (the ONLY entity that may submit roster applications under the CMR), and that the reports of CZ application and approval are very much exaggerated.
Is there a source to confirm if an application has been submitted?
The guy did also say to look for them later this year. It's just a tid bit of information directly from the company.
NEXT, the Mfr has to Certify to the Distributors and Dealers that the gun ALSO MEETS the AG REGS. Until and unless this is done, the gun in question can ONLY be legally sold/transfered by a MA Dealer to a LEO (LEO sales are exempt from AG Regs, as specified in CMR). The AG will NOT approve any handgun for sale in MA!! It is a Mfr self-certification and the AG reserves the right AT ANY TIME to take exception by sending a "cease & desist" letter to the Mfr and every Dealer in MA, demanding that they retrieve every such gun sold or face a $5K/gun fine (this is what happened to Glock).
You are technically correct.