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David Hogg's (Small) Wants you to turn in your guns

This ain't a court of law or debate society or whatever.
I'll twist the truth to suit my purpose or flat out lie if need be.
The other side does it and has no shame of it.
Sad to say, but why change a tactic when it works?

Antis are among the most biased faction in politics. Why would they even engage in rational debate, when strawman, appeal to emotion, and false dilemma fallacies work so well to pull in tons of "educated" folks, and even worse, swamp-hopeful political candidates who lick a finger to see where the winds of public opinion are blowing from to get swept into office?

Believe me, I dislike it as much as you do, but the "national discourse" is an oxymoron. There is no discourse, no debate, and no rationality. When folks square off in "debate" it's as one sided as a Moscow show trial. It's far easier to be rarted on Twitter in 280 character increments and cite junk science studies that do not meet muster than to actually debate folks in good faith.

Why should I listen to someone who got shot as an expert in gun control? It makes as much sense as considering someone who fell out of a tree as an expert on gravity. 🤔
 
Without the barrage of criticism from the right, all that would be left is the praise from the left.

50 years ago, without social media to brainwash kids into the lefty mindset, kids joined the boy scouts or 4H and learned how to be self sufficient rather than sponge off Mom and Dad in the basement until the welfare benefits kick in.

Without reclaiming those young people and getting them to "actually" wake up, we're headed for a shooting unCivil war. One of these BLM (or whatever replaces it) riots will set it off.

I don't think angsting over it, posting memes or even holding rallies will wake "them" up, but I don't have any better ideas, either.
Plenty of anti gun dick heads 50 years ago too
 
They have been grooming children into their communist ideas starting in the 60s. And Republicans are busy doing nothing to counter it. All of those snowflakes are going to vote, and we will be sunk.
 
This ain't a court of law or debate society or whatever.

Yea, it is. It’s the court of public opinion, which is where policy is made.

Politicians do what they think will get or keep them in office. Very few act purely on moral beliefs.

If we want to win this “war” we have to convince those on the fence, and those who don’t care, that we’re morally and legally right.

Being seen as a group that lies and makes shit up tarnishes all our arguments, no matter how based in research and constitutional history they are.


I'll twist the truth to suit my purpose or flat out lie if need be.

That, right there, is why I’d assume you made something up, or misquoted someone to suit your argument, or are just a sucker repeating some lie someone told you.

The other side does it and has no shame of it.

So what? Be better than them.

History, logic, public policy research, and The Constitution are on our side. Use those arguments without lying.
 
Hogg is a white Stacey Abrams. Always a grift....

Except hte latter is a dude. [rofl]

Plenty of anti gun dick heads 50 years ago too

50 years ago was 1973. Definitely. You gotta go back 65 or so years now to talk about "sensible" Americans. Of course, those same sensible Americans were trying to get anyone and anyone who might be a Commie lynched. Plus the blacks. So there was that, too. Restricting others' freedom is hard-wired into our brains. It is a defense mechanism for our own insecurities.
 
This ain't a court of law or debate society or whatever.
I'll twist the truth to suit my purpose or flat out lie if need be.
The other side does it and has no shame of it.
There's only us and them. Every White Hat I've ever seen is more of a hypocrite behind closed doors than the sinners out in the open.

Lying when you don't have to... is idiotic though. We have plenty of facts on our side that we don't have to make shit up. It doesn't really take a lot of effort to do the right thing in this particular case. There's times to be devious and work the system, using made up shit in propaganda when there's easily better material available, however, is chronically dumb.
 
Anti gun vets are the shit posters of 2nd Amendment debates and are welcome to eat a bag of dicks.

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I find the mentality of the anti gun vet interesting. Vets are far more aware than the general public that whatever branch they were in can trace its lineage back to the Continental Army and America's violent birth. Furthermore, vets are often sent to places where the citizens have no right to arms and can see first hand the abuses suffered by people under an oppressive regime.

What are they thinking?
 
Except hte latter is a dude. [rofl]



50 years ago was 1973. Definitely. You gotta go back 65 or so years now to talk about "sensible" Americans. Of course, those same sensible Americans were trying to get anyone and anyone who might be a Commie lynched. Plus the blacks. So there was that, too. Restricting others' freedom is hard-wired into our brains. It is a defense mechanism for our own insecurities.


and yet here we are with progressives utilizing strategies from various communist sources to destabilize the country and the 13% is now a seemingly protected class of disproportionately violent people................................I have to admit, I do feel less secure now.
 
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You have no right to a gun. True in practice in many places unfortunately [MA, CT, RI, NY, MD, NJ, CA, HI] etc.
and the constitution as is is misinterpreted and needs re-evaluation, with most amendments to be discontinued as is.
it is not a new demand from neo-socialists and marxists. any narrative works as long as it pushes society into more disarray to create a revolutionary situation.

americans at whole are just still mostly extremely naïve and simply refuse to understand that a lot of people truly hate them and the way of life in here. most of college educators here are nursing those ideas - of the corrupt nature of the capitalist society, the futile point in pursuit of happiness - the only happiness that can be should be provided to you according to your social status in the system that merits your worthiness.
socialists and their agenda is real, and their efforts are real. their judges and attorney generals and prosecutors are real. people just refuse to wake up to what is happening in front of their dreamy eyes.

and of crime among poorest layers of society - it was always a core topic in the socialist russia to treat a criminal, any criminal, as a socially relatable element, that gets preferential treatment compared to a socially destructive element - means middle class representative that would be labeled an enemy of the people as it refuses to play its dedicated social role. none of that is new, all of that was already seen - and people here just should be getting ready for a next act of this opera.
 
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and the constitution as is is misinterpreted and needs re-evaluation, with most amendments to be discontinued as is.
it is not a new demand from neo-socialists and marxists. any narrative works as long as it pushes society into more disarray to create a revolutionary situation.
The problem with the whole 'living breathing document' thing is people like those in the Everytown army will say slavery was once legal and abolished. Women at one point couldn't vote but now they could. So nothing is absolute, not even the 2A.
 
It helps to remember this kid is useless. He has zero skills. If his school hadn't been shot up he'd be bagging groceries at the supermarket till hie was 30. He literally has no other way to be successful in life than be retarded and do what the antis tell him to do so he can milk them for every dollar.
 
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