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With all due respect, the 9x19 is by no means a "new standard" in Limited division since Limited used major/minor scoring, and the 9x19 comes it at minor.
- New standard in Limited Division and fits IPSC box
Nice gun.. Unfortunately totally useless with 10 round magazines. What are you going to do with it ... shoot LImited-10? Good news is that you;ll be competing against yourself in 95% of your matches.
With all due respect, the 9x19 is by no means a "new standard" in Limited division since Limited used major/minor scoring, and the 9x19 comes it at minor.
The high end standard in Limited is a STI/SVI/Clone in 40 short & wimpy.
The gun design and style, with pre-ban mags, is indeed considered the high end limited setup - though it is not the only brand selling this particular basic design.I think he's repeating the marketing hype that the STI DVC sets the new standard for Limited guns (vs the old standard, the Edge).
I'd agree that a DVC in 9mm is silly.
Not everyone shoots USPSA
The 9mm DVC could be a great steel plate gun.
True on both counts, but "Limited Division" implies USPSA.Not everyone shoots USPSA
The 9mm DVC could be a great steel plate gun.
Seriously??? I don;t need anybody to explain to me that anybody pushing a DVC Limited in 9MM with 10 round mags as the gun to use in USPSA Limited Division has NO IDEA what they are talking about but are just copying the marketing hype from the manufactures website (http://stiguns.com/guns/dvc-limited/).Ummm. Someone can explain it to you at the next match hopefully.
The identical gun in 40 S&W is a superb USPSA limited gun.The price is $2799.Regarding the IPSC comment, we will chastise STI for including that phraseology in their marketing materials.All purchasers of this gun/caliber and magazine capacity have shot it in Steel Challenge, and other falling steel competitions.
Seriously??? I don;t need anybody to explain to me that anybody pushing a DVC Limited in 9MM with 10 round mags as the gun to use in USPSA Limited Division has NO IDEA what they are talking about but are just copying the marketing hype from the manufactures website (http://stiguns.com/guns/dvc-limited/).
If you don;t understand that you would be at a HUGE disadvantage shooting a 9MM gun with 10 round mags in USPSA Limited then (a) maybe you need somebody to explain it to you or (b) try and find one of the 7% of USPSA shooters who compete in Limited-10 and ask them to explain it or (c) go ahead and shoot against the guys running DVC Limiteds in .40 with 17 round magazines and see how you do.
Agree. And I have shot one in that capacity.The identical gun in 40 S&W is a superb USPSA limited gun.
8 round array..move.. 8 round array... Who shoots 17 rounds in Limited? I really don't know how to respond to that. You shoot Limited with as many rounds as you can stuff into a 140MM magazine. Anything less is handicapping yourself.Its not a HUGE disadvantage, hell with the typical 8 round array move 8 round array, it not even a big disadvantage.
17 round mags in limited...who shoots with 17 rounds in Limited?
Anyways...sweet gun. Be good for 3 gun too
8 round array..move.. 8 round array... Who shoots 17 rounds in Limited? I really don't know how to respond to that. You shoot Limited with as many rounds as you can stuff into a 140MM magazine. Anything less is handicapping yourself.
Are we talking about the same sport? See attached Area 6 championship video and explain to me how shooting a 10 round magazine vs the standard capacity 17 round magazine is not a serious disadvantage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me4RNv5AkKc
Seriously??? I don;t need anybody to explain to me that anybody pushing a DVC Limited in 9MM with 10 round mags as the gun to use in USPSA Limited Division has NO IDEA what they are talking about but are just copying the marketing hype from the manufactures website (http://stiguns.com/guns/dvc-limited/).
If you don;t understand that you would be at a HUGE disadvantage shooting a 9MM gun with 10 round mags in USPSA Limited then (a) maybe you need somebody to explain it to you or (b) try and find one of the 7% of USPSA shooters who compete in Limited-10 and ask them to explain it or (c) go ahead and shoot against the guys running DVC Limiteds in .40 with 17 round magazines and see how you do.
First, I was referring to pre-ban mags. STI mags aren't marked. Second, check the results of local matches and see how production guys regularly beat limited and open guys, since you brought up the topic.
At one recent local match, a singlestack shooter (8 round mags) won overall, in a GM and M class field.
Impossible! How could this happen???!!!
At one recent local match, a singlestack shooter (8 round mags) won overall, in a GM and M class field.
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8 round array..move.. 8 round array... Who shoots 17 rounds in Limited? I really don't know how to respond to that. You shoot Limited with as many rounds as you can stuff into a 140MM magazine. Anything less is handicapping yourself.
Are we talking about the same sport? See attached Area 6 championship video and explain to me how shooting a 10 round magazine vs the standard capacity 17 round magazine is not a serious disadvantage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me4RNv5AkKc
Wow you are pretty fast in that video. Let me rethink my answer