g17 tirgger?

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So I shoot my g17 horribly. I went to the 5 yard range to just compare what was happening with my Beretta 92 and Sig 229. Every dam grouping is far low and left so I assume it's the heavy trigger pull. My other handguns do this slightly (I'm working on it) but my Glock is just 4 inches left which tells me it is likely the trigger?? Maybe the sights? Maybe I ought to sand bag it and check.
 
Shoot it off the bags first. A lot of people have trouble with the glock trigger pull that run other guns for the longest time. The common problem is trying to prep the trigger and "snatching" it instead of just trying to shoot it like a DA revolver at first.

BTW, it shouldn't really be heavy, it should be under 6 pounds or so, unless you got one of those "MA window glocks" from 2004. Even if you do, you can repair the gun by swapping out the connector.

-Mike
 
I'll try bags first. I blame myself before the gun, but the trigger just feels...clunky. I'm not sure how else to put it. It isn't that it's a hard trigger pull necessarily, it's just awkward or something.

I'll look into the connector. Thanks, man.
 
I tend to shoot my Glock a tad to the left as well. I'm a righty. I heard lefties tend to shoot Glocks to the right. I think it has to do with trigger discipline. When I slow fire, I can generally maintain an even, straight-back pull... keeping my shots on point. When I speed up, I get sloppy and I get a lot of fliers to the left.
 
I tend to shoot my Glock a tad to the left as well. I'm a righty. I heard lefties tend to shoot Glocks to the right. I think it has to do with trigger discipline. When I slow fire, I can generally maintain an even, straight-back pull... keeping my shots on point. When I speed up, I get sloppy and I get a lot of fliers to the left.

Exactly. Plus, if someone is used to shooting primarily SA like you on the 92 & 229 it'll potentially be even tougher. If you can press through the DA on your Sig or Beretta consistently well you shouldn't have much trouble with the Glock trigger.
 
I'll try bags first. I blame myself before the gun, but the trigger just feels...clunky. I'm not sure how else to put it. It isn't that it's a hard trigger pull necessarily, it's just awkward or something.

I'll look into the connector. Thanks, man.

a connector will help--but it's mostly you. i know this because i have a similar problem. i dicked up my trigger finger with a knife so shooting has been much more difficult for me with handguns. i can shoot my 1911 great because it's a 1911, but if you put anything else in my hands i have a hard time.
 
Where do you shoot? I have a 17 with a great trigger you can try out and I can laugh if your all over the paper? :)
Just kidding its most likely the shooter, even a gun with a bad trigger can be shoot straight if your consistent and know the feel and when it breaks, etc. If your not shooting your gun straight and its not the sites its you, ask me how I know lol
 
i dicked up my trigger finger with a knife.

Ouch? [rofl]

I shoot at HSC. The plate racks to the left (near the action shooting) area I can hit easily from the bench with my 92 with cheap plinking 9mm rounds. My g17, I literally can't hit a single plate. It's probably just me not pulling the trigger properly but, like I said, it feels clunky not necessarily that it takes more force to pull.
 
Ouch? [rofl]

I shoot at HSC. The plate racks to the left (near the action shooting) area I can hit easily from the bench with my 92 with cheap plinking 9mm rounds. My g17, I literally can't hit a single plate. It's probably just me not pulling the trigger properly but, like I said, it feels clunky not necessarily that it takes more force to pull.

Come up some Wednesday evening or even next thursday I will be there. I will take your gun and hit the plates hand it back and you will know its you :) You can take my 17 hit the plates hand it back to me and know its your gun that you have problems with :) See that will solve everything!
 
Come up some Wednesday evening or even next thursday I will be there. I will take your gun and hit the plates hand it back and you will know its you :) You can take my 17 hit the plates hand it back to me and know its your gun that you have problems with :) See that will solve everything!

A challenge. I like it. Too bad you can't make it this Sunday morning. I'll be there with a buddy shooting the new plates around 9 or 9:30.
 
Just tested my G17 trigger pull with a wheeler scale. It came in between 7.5 and > 8 lbs. I don't think that's stock for a G17. Possibly a NY Leo gun here?
 
Just tested my G17 trigger pull with a wheeler scale. It came in between 7.5 and > 8 lbs. I don't think that's stock for a G17. Possibly a NY Leo gun here?

Pop out the trigger assembly. If the trigger spring is the one that has a green or orange plastic housing like this:

http://www.glockmeister.com/New-York-Trigger-Spring-1-8-LBs/productinfo/G7405/

Then it is the NY trigger. I just fixed mine with these parts and it's good to go now.


http://www.glockmeister.com/GLOCK-Trigger-Spring-fits-all-models/productinfo/G350/

http://www.glockmeister.com/45-Pound-Stock-Connector/productinfo/G721/

Some good info here:

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2012/01/01/glock-setup-tips/
 
Pop out the trigger assembly. If the trigger spring is the one that has a green or orange plastic housing like this:

http://www.glockmeister.com/New-York-Trigger-Spring-1-8-LBs/productinfo/G7405/

Then it is the NY trigger. I just fixed mine with these parts and it's good to go now.


http://www.glockmeister.com/GLOCK-Trigger-Spring-fits-all-models/productinfo/G350/

http://www.glockmeister.com/45-Pound-Stock-Connector/productinfo/G721/

Some good info here:

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2012/01/01/glock-setup-tips/

I guess that's not it then. This is my first detailed strip I still can't believe how much plastic I see here [laugh] Here is the trigger and housing. This is a Gen II as well.

g17.jpg
 
Resurrecting this thread. Just wanted to post a 7 yard target grouping comparison between my Beretta and my G17. Same ammo. I still have crap trigger pull which is evident, but the Glock is far worse than expected.

Beretta 92
beretta.jpg

G17
glock.jpg
 
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I like the 5lb tactical trigger by Ghost, They take some fitting but they shorten your reset. I also tend to polish in some areas and change out some springs. You can get a nice 5lb carry trigger doing that.
Since you have a + connector the simple first step is to just swap it out, If you are near South Hadley pop into the shop I am almost positive I have a stock connector lying around.

James
 
Change out to a regular connector. You are anticipating recoil or smashing the trigger right before it fires. Try dry fire or dummy round drils and watch the gun plummet when you hit a snap cap. Practive more with the Glock with proper trigger press and you will be fine.
 
Is it possible you have a NY 8# trigger? If you are used to a lighter trigger in the Sig, you will need to learn to shoot with the heavier trigger. Ayoob chooses to use the 8# Glock in matches and wins all the time.
 
if you don't want to spend money you can take the one that i have from my 2nd gen 17. let me know and i can try to dig it up for you if you'd like it.

Sure, if it's no trouble. Let me know how much you want for it.
 
For whatever it is or isn't worth, in a typical 2nd or 3rd gen 17. with the correct spring and the stock connector, your pull should break under or near 6 pounds.

-Mike
 
I am having the same issue with a G17 as JE25FF, even the same target groupings, and just compared my trigger pull to a stock G26, and mine was easier at the start of the pull, but noticeably more difficult at the end stroke of the pull. Is this consistent with the 8 lb connector? Thanks. In any case, I will also be buying a new connector.

Edit: it is an 8lb, it as the dreaded + sign
 
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I put a 5lb connector in that was graciously donated and it made a noticeable difference. Still, I pull to the left. I had some other shooters (a few of whom are far, far, better shooters than I) try it out and it would pull just a tad for them as well. Still, I'm confident the gun works as intended and I just need to work on my trigger pull. In my opinion, if you are going to master just one thing in shooting, it's trigger control. For some reason my rifle shooting doesn't suffer from this but my handgun shooting does.
 
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