Gun and ammo shortages

Well, I've taken this thread as far off-track as possible... Back to the Shortages!

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I feel sorry for the 20 year old just getting into the game.

Anyone who has been around this situation since 1994 AW ban, LA riots, Newtown, Las Vegas, not so much. To them I say: Told you so, nananananaa

i didn't get into the sport until early 2012. Newton happened near the end of the year, i had nothing in stock. learned my lesson, and was able to drop a
remington bucket"o"bullets on a new shooter at my original cost ($0.05/round) last week.

posted in an earlier .22 thread i wouldn't sell it to anyone during the current situation, but i've known him since' 75 and was best man at his wedding.

friends like that you've gotta take care of
 
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what I don't understand - are the manufacturers selling it at crazy prices or is it all middle gouge markups?
We have a semi-big box chain store in town (I think they have about 8-10 stores nationwide, total). Until a few weeks ago, Blazer Brass, Speer Lawman and whatever came in was $15.99/50. They even had some Fiocchi for $12.99. Last week, it went up to $16.99. 5.56/.223 has went from $8.49 to $10.49, although some came in later (Frontier) that was still $7.49. They are starting to mark up, but no where near as bad as elsewhere. Unfortunately, at $30 for 2 boxes a couple of times a week, it still adds up. I'm on a tight budget, so I've had to stop buying for now and hope that I had enough. When it was $8-10, I was making $9 less per hour, so I couldn't afford to buy more than a box or two. Anyhow, I think the prices are mostly just gouging by the sellers.
 
We have a semi-big box chain store in town (I think they have about 8-10 stores nationwide, total). Until a few weeks ago, Blazer Brass, Speer Lawman and whatever came in was $15.99/50. They even had some Fiocchi for $12.99. Last week, it went up to $16.99. 5.56/.223 has went from $8.49 to $10.49, although some came in later (Frontier) that was still $7.49. They are starting to mark up, but no where near as bad as elsewhere. Unfortunately, at $30 for 2 boxes a couple of times a week, it still adds up. I'm on a tight budget, so I've had to stop buying for now and hope that I had enough. When it was $8-10, I was making $9 less per hour, so I couldn't afford to buy more than a box or two. Anyhow, I think the prices are mostly just gouging by the sellers.
Gouging is a matter of perspective.

Gas dealers jack prices on notice of spot pricing increases and they justify it with "it will cost us more to replace it".

No different here with ammo dealers.

No different when selling a house. The house you bought in 1974 for $40K, similar houses in the same neighborhood are being sold for $525-550K. Would you sell yours for $45K instead, when you know that the next house you buy to replace it (similar) will cost you $500-600K?

~15 yrs ago we were buying 9mm at Dick's and/or WalMart for $5/box and Dick's back then frequently had buy one get one for 50% deals. Many of us took advantage of those deals. When the Big Zero was elected, the same ammo was now $9-10/box (is that gouging?). Before COVID hit, it was probably $9-12/box, now dealers can't get supplies and when they do they are paying more than that wholesale, so the market is currently $20-30/box.

ECON 101 . . . you can't sell something for less than you paid for it and expect to remain in business.

It's just the way the free market works. Socialism/Communism, the gov't dictates the prices . . . is that what people here really want?
 
Inneresting.
Did you check out his Top 5 Reasons I Won't Be Going To Gun Shows Anymore?
I don't know which NES Standard Reaction would be larger:
  • What does "price gouging" even mean?
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#4 - "The underlying negative energy and anxiety among the people there." [rofl] I've been going to gun shows in MA since sometime in the early nineties. Never noticed any negative energy and anxiety - until the Air Guard sent me to Tucson for a couple months in 2002. Went to an AZ gun show, and within a couple of minutes realized that everyone was...happy. Kids running around with ice cream cones dragging dad over to the rifle they just had to have, everybody smiling, no charging from table to table to beat everyone to 'the one good thing'. Had never seen that at a show in MA, hadn't even noticed we were all grumpy. "Welcome to the party, pal" sums it up perfectly. I'd bet his gun shows now feel just like the ones in Massachusetts.

I feel bad for him, but I'm still laughing.
 
Yesterday (sorry, 1st opportunity to post), Shooters Outpost In Amherst had tons of .223 for $16 for 20 rds, and a bunch of green tips $119/150 rds.
 
The advantage of shooting antique black powder muzzleloaders is the fact you still get the shooting experience, components tend to be more available during panics, and most importantly , you dont have the elevated itch to shoot up your common calibers. Win!👍
 
The advantage of shooting antique black powder muzzleloaders is the fact you still get the shooting experience, components tend to be more available during panics, and most importantly , you dont have the elevated itch to shoot up your common calibers. Win!👍
And mag dumps are way faster!
 
In 2012 when they went ape shit over ARs, I ordered a LaRue OBR 7.62 20”. TWO AND A HALF YEARS LATER - I got it. Have faith, this too will pass...,,,,either that or we have bigger problems
 
The advantage of shooting antique black powder muzzleloaders is the fact you still get the shooting experience, components tend to be more available during panics, and most importantly , you dont have the elevated itch to shoot up your common calibers. Win!👍
Aren't you concerned about flint flakes becoming NFA items?
 
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