HK USP Compact VS HK P2000

[Red Leg]

any major differences between HK USP Compact and the HK P2000?

 

[mr_hao]

The rail design if you intend on using a light. On the USP it's a proprietary design and on the p2000 it's a pic rail.

 

[Red Leg]

got some more info. the backstrap can be adjusted, no safety, universal slide release. seems from what ive read that people prefer the P2000.

 

[drgrant]

The differences are night and day. The ergos on the P2000 are waaaaay better. The slides are slimmer profiled, etc. P2K has ambi slide lock and interchangeable backstraps for grip size.

That said, I would look at it this way.... if you want DA/SA, get the USP. If you want LEM, get the P2000. The DA/SA on the P2K is kinda crappy, because of the ghey button decocker, which I hate.

-Mike

 

[Red Leg]

Thanks Mike, as always you've been very helpful.

 

[Trupo]

Not to thread hijack, but how bout USP Compact 45 Vs. HK45C? Are the triggers (DA/SA) more or less the same (pull, reset, take-up, ect.)?

Any thoughts from those in the know...Bueller...Bueller???

 

[Flyer007]

Love my Hk45c. The ergos are great. It has the medium strength LEM trigger which resets a little shorter than the lighter LEM in my P2000sk.

I have the DA/SA trigger parts and been toying with the idea of putting them in to try. But I like the LEM too much to do so.

For the Op. What caliber are you talking? I would add a P30 to the list as it is almost the size of a compact and compares well to a G19 in size. Benefits of the P30 is that you have different sized side panels as well as rear grip. P30 is on my list.

 

[PaulD]

Not to thread hijack, but how bout USP Compact 45 Vs. HK45C? Are the triggers (DA/SA) more or less the same (pull, reset, take-up, ect.)?

Any thoughts from those in the know...Bueller...Bueller???

HK45c.

 

[PaulD]

Love my Hk45c. The ergos are great. It has the medium strength LEM trigger which resets a little shorter than the lighter LEM in my P2000sk.

I have the DA/SA trigger parts and been toying with the idea of putting them in to try. But I like the LEM too much to do so.

For the Op. What caliber are you talking? I would add a P30 to the list as it is almost the size of a compact and compares well to a G19 in size. Benefits of the P30 is that you have different sized side panels as well as rear grip. P30 is on my list.

Yeah, the P30 (as opposed to P30L) is the compact version. The only issue with that gun, and I suppose the P2000 also, vs. the USP is the lack of pre-ban mags. I'd really like a P30L but it seems a travesty to use it with 10 round mags.

 

[Red Leg]

Yeah, the P30 (as opposed to P30L) is the compact version. The only issue with that gun, and I suppose the P2000 also, vs. the USP is the lack of pre-ban mags. I'd really like a P30L but it seems a travesty to use it with 10 round mags.

I've read that the P2000 will accept mags from a USP. Now I will have to look at the P30.

 

[drgrant]

I've read that the P2000 will accept mags from a USP. Now I will have to look at the P30.

The P2000 takes USP -Compact- Mags. There are no preban USP Compact mags.

The standard USP mags used in the full size are NOT compatible with the USPc/P2000/etc.

-Mike

 

[PaulD]

The P2000 takes USP -Compact- Mags. There are no preban USP Compact mags.

The standard USP mags used in the full size are NOT compatible with the USPc/P2000/etc.

-Mike

How hard is it to find any pre-ban USP mags? Given when USPs were introduced to the market, it seems like it would be difficult.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_USP

 

[drgrant]

How hard is it to find any pre-ban USP mags? Given when USPs were introduced to the market, it seems like it would be difficult.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_USP

It's not impossible. Back when I had my USP .40 full size I had a dozen of them. They are somewhat rare, and likely to be not cheap when you can find them, though. (Typically, $35+).

-Mike

 

[Kalahari]

If you're looking at compact HKs, you may also want to look at the P2000SK (subcompact). Like other HKs, it's hard to find in MA, but a lot of folks down here like it as their CCW.

 

[Red Leg]

P30 DA/SA only no LEM and its a little bigger than the p2000. From what I've read its a very comfortable gun, lots of ways to customize the grips. I called Manchester and they have a p2000. I'll be making a trip up tomorrow to try it out.

 

[PaulD]

P30 DA/SA only no LEM and its a little bigger than the p2000. From what I've read its a very comfortable gun, lots of ways to customize the grips. I called Manchester and they have a p2000. I'll be making a trip up tomorrow to try it out.

HK lists a LEM version of the P30 on their site.

 

[Kalahari]

P30 DA/SA only no LEM and its a little bigger than the p2000. From what I've read its a very comfortable gun, lots of ways to customize the grips. I called Manchester and they have a p2000. I'll be making a trip up tomorrow to try it out.

There is a LEM option for the P30. You're right that it is larger than a USPc. I've handled one a few times and it was incredibly comfortable.

 

[Red Leg]

seems i read an old post, nice find.

 

[PaulD]

seems i read an old post, nice find.

I think the LEM version came out later.

 

[Red Leg]

so i went to manchester today and shot the P2000. it felt great in my hand, it seemed to shoot low but after some adjustments it worked pretty well. the mag release by the trigger guard was not an issue for me. i also checked out a Sig 229. i seemed to shoot a little bit better with that but i realized that i dont care for the DA/SA setup.
funny thing though, after shooting and driving home i was thinking.......did i have fun??? well, it was ok. i'm not overly excited to shoot again..it made me think if i really want to invest in this hobby.

 

[Kalahari]

Maybe you need to try shooting something other than paper?

 

[Flyer007]

so i went to manchester today and shot the P2000. it felt great in my hand, it seemed to shoot low but after some adjustments it worked pretty well. the mag release by the trigger guard was not an issue for me. i also checked out a Sig 229. i seemed to shoot a little bit better with that but i realized that i dont care for the DA/SA setup.
funny thing though, after shooting and driving home i was thinking.......did i have fun??? well, it was ok. i'm not overly excited to shoot again..it made me think if i really want to invest in this hobby.

Shooting alone can suck. Punching paper can get boring. You need to shoot with some people.

 

[Red Leg]

you guys maybe right. maybe i should step it down a notch and look at the Glocks or M&P's. i just read and article in the Union Leader about the Mount Vernon murders. its got me thinking that having some sort of firearm may be a necessity.

thanks everybody for your input.

 

[drgrant]

you guys maybe right. maybe i should step it down a notch and look at the Glocks or M&P's. i just read and article in the Union Leader about the Mount Vernon murders. its got me thinking that having some sort of firearm may be a necessity.

thanks everybody for your input.

I don't know if it's a step down, most of the time among quality firearms its a step sideways. I've had most brands at one point or another and kind of went in a circle and came back to Glocks, although I still have other brands, as well. It's about finding what works for you. "Playing the field" is a good idea, it will help you save money in the long run.

If I was more patient when I first got my LTC things would have been a lot less expensive overall.

-Mike