how are your post trump, color revolution, covid family relationships ?

Followers will always follow. They will also always LOOK for someone to follow. And when they disappoint, they have them crucified. It's a story as old as time. . . or at least 2,010 years or so.

Seriously - followers just follow. They can't handle making their own decisions. Not all of them are liberals. Lots of followers on both sides of the aisle.
 
1. Read a book on economics???

Not an argument and I've already addressed the econ 101 of this with respect to the President's culpability.

2. Look at a 2-year chart on gas prices.

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3. Learn a bit about how much of a PITA it is to drill oil in the US and how $2gas ensures that US drillers won’t dig a hole. And a FEAR of $2gas ensures they still won’t dig a hole.

I know shale oil isn't as easy to refine or extract as ye olde well oil but technology continues to advance and reserves continue to be found. 20 years ago it was a pipe dream to have a car that could take you from Boston to New York City powered only by electricity, but here we are. As far as the gas price minimum, yes, even Trump himself said something like "$2.50 is what gas should be" or something like that. They still dig plenty of holes.

I hate Biden. If Trump were in office, gas would be $3.99 instead of $4.19. But not $2.50. Not even close. You heard about this war thing in Ukraine, right?

I don't disagree it still would have gone up, but we'd be closer to $3 than $4. With Trump we'd have Keystone oil, ME oil, moar fracking, and maybe even still Russian oil.
 
My older brother stopped talking to me when I called him out for claiming to be a 'Veteran" whilst trashing the Orange Man. Went into the Navy Reserve to dodge the Draft...
Maybe your brother is a critical thinker who had no quarrel with them Viet Cong.
 
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Not an argument and I've already addressed the econ 101 of this with respect to the President's culpability.



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I know shale oil isn't as easy to refine or extract as ye olde well oil but technology continues to advance and reserves continue to be found. 20 years ago it was a pipe dream to have a car that could take you from Boston to New York City powered only by electricity, but here we are. As far as the gas price minimum, yes, even Trump himself said something like "$2.50 is what gas should be" or something like that. They still dig plenty of holes.



I don't disagree it still would have gone up, but we'd be closer to $3 than $4. With Trump we'd have Keystone oil, ME oil, moar fracking, and maybe even still Russian oil.
You are correct about digging plenty of holes at ~$2.50 per gallon. The Permian Basin still has plenty of oil and gas, and it's relatively easy extraction. The producers dig a buttload of cheap, shallow wells and frac with low cost local frac sand rather than the high performance ceramic proppants. This was happening during the Trump admin.

Naturally higher prices at the pump do support even more production. The USA has 253 more rigs in production vs. a year ago. Impressive numbers, and up until lately the Canadian and International counts were really lagging behind.

from Baker Hughes Rig Count:
AreaLast CountCountChange from Prior CountDate of Prior CountChange from Last YearDate of Last Year's Count
U.S.25 Mar
2022
670+718 Mar
2022
+25326 Mar
2021
Canada25 Mar
2022
140-3618 Mar
2022
+5926 Mar
2021
InternationalFeb
2022
813-28Jan
2021
+112Jan
2021
 
Solid ! Family is always solid! Well, am I fortunate to have a solid family, very! Taught to me and my brother early on from my father.
Old school farmer from the Azores. Don't be late for supper, ever ! forget to feed the chickens, OUCH !!
Good times
 
Mine feel that white people are to blame for all of the problems in the world and that white people as a whole should be punished and forced out of positions of authority. And they also hate racism.

Think about that for a second.
Makes the ears bleed hearing that in the wild.
 
Nice non-critical thinking reply. Stolen Valor, and not repaying a loan is hardly critical thinking. Try a bit harder.
By "critical thinking," I was referring to your brother's decision to not put himself directly in harm's way for a cause that was of dubious merit.

A large percentage of the population didn't buy into the domino theory -- at least as it applied to southeast Asia -- back then.

Many draft-age men sought a less risky path to fulfill their military obligation, especially as the Vietnam conflict staggered on after release of the Pentagon Papers.

Your brother did a hell of a lot more than the Cheeto Jesus you so ardently worship.
 
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"Hold it. How can Dems lose seats if all elections are rigged? Can I get a scorecard of what I’m supposed to believe because I’m on NES. I don’t want to be called any bad names because I’m not toeing the line."

I didn't say all elections are rigged, it's about the 2020 Presidential Election where the Dems, the swamp and the lamestream media declared war on Trump and used everything they had to steal an election. Check out Project Veritas and the taping of the CNN program manager, the phony impeachments, Adam Schiff and the Intel committee swearing on TV and in hearings they had evidence of Trumps collusion with Little Puty. If the lamestream media had done their jobs and acted as journalists instead of partisan hacks and reported on Hunter's laptop contents and the Biden crime family(the Big Guy gets 10%) Trump would have won and the Dems would have rioted. We live in a corrupt one party State so yes, all Ma. elections are rigged. Charley Baker was an anomaly because he was a RINO and Maura will waltz into the Governorship where she will continue to chip away at our rights with full encouragement from the sheeple.
 
By "critical thinking," I was referring to your brother's decision to not put himself directly in harm's way for a cause that was of dubious merit.

A large percentage of the population didn't buy into the domino theory -- at least as it applied to southeast Asia -- back then.

Many draft-age men sought a less risky path to fulfill their military obligation, especially as the Vietnam conflict staggered on after release of the Pentagon Papers.

Your brother did a hell of a lot more than the Cheeto Jesus you so ardently worship.
Who is Cheeto Jesus? Is he related to Gun Jesus?
 
By "critical thinking," I was referring to your brother's decision to not put himself directly in harm's way for a cause that was of dubious merit.
A large percentage of the population didn't buy into the domino theory -- at least as it applied to southeast Asia -- back then.
Many draft-age men sought a less risky path to fulfill their military obligation, especially as the Vietnam conflict staggered on after release of the Pentagon Papers.
Your brother did a hell of a lot more than the Cheeto Jesus you so ardently worship.
wow, DNC activates back its horde of pre-election drones! good grief, are we at midterms already? time goes so fast.
now, soon TV will become unbearable to turn on again with all the brain washing.

but i kinda wait for it, i am really curious what other spin you f#cks will find to explain all the deep shit this country is in now, other than 'putin did it' and 'trump did it'.
 
wow, DNC activates back its horde of pre-election drones! good grief, are we at midterms already? time goes so fast.
now, soon TV will become unbearable to turn on again with all the brain washing.

but i kinda wait for it, i am really curious what other spin you f#cks will find to explain all the deep shit this country is in now, other than 'putin did it' and 'trump did it'.
Spin? What spin?

I simply pointed out that during the Vietnam conflict, Bt74's brother, as a naval reservist, served his country to a far greater extent than did the NES deity Cheeto Jesus.

Strangely, Cheeto Jesus characterized his avoidance of AIDS in the 1980s as his "personal Vietnam." WTF?

To be fair, Cheeto Jesus likely would have served were it not for his pesky bone spurs -- unless he too was a critical thinker who did not care for the risk/reward equation as it related to the draftee candidates of that troubled time.
 
Problem I see on both sides is a willingness to get into it over any dumb ass topic. What ever happened to having some tact? You don't have to agree but you also don't have to engage knowing that you still wont agree and its only going to make a family relationship worse.
 
I still see the little dweebs from Reading walking home from school, alone, with their masks on. Very sad. Those are the leaders of tomorrow. Their parents need a swift thrashing with a large black dildo.
Seen that behavior in many towns in this state.
 
Problem I see on both sides is a willingness to get into it over any dumb ass topic. What ever happened to having some tact? You don't have to agree but you also don't have to engage knowing that you still wont agree and its only going to make a family relationship worse.

LOL, great sentiment, but there is ZERO "tact" when a relative is telling you that you're not allowed at thanksgiving dinner cause you didnt get jabbed or whatever. Not sure how you
expect someone to respond to that. This isn't inherently a "side" or a political thing either, but its pretty obvious how the self deselection works, the factions in the families that push
covidiocy are typically authoritarian knob polishers regardless of faction vs those that arent so f***ed up. So when someone ups the ante by being a massive auth loving retard and pushing covidiocy, this causes bad shit to happen. Bad shit that the "unjabbed" guy or his wife/kids or whoever had no intention or desire to happen to begin with.

I only know a handful of people who have jettisoned family or vice versa because of "orange man bad or not" . Thats pretty retarded. It's easy to avoid that topic just by
people shutting the f*** up, and talk about shit that isnt political.

On the other hand covidiocy has likely fractioned and in some cases destroyed thousands of families, and OFTEN not strictly along what you would consider partisan lines either.

Thankfully I never witnessed covidiocy in my family, even the small lib elements in my family didnt fully buy into it. They also realized within 10 seconds that they valued their
family more than maskurbating etc. I know other people that were not so lucky, though.
 
Weird, I was going to reply to @polygraph603 and the Cheeto Jesus pic but somehow it would not work. First time I have had that issue with the forum.

Anyway... IMHO Trump's personality flaws were a hindrance to his effectiveness and served to pour gas on the fires of his opposition. Personally, I could care less about whether we was brash and arrogant- so long as his policy was sound. He 'did the right thing' for border security and economic health of the country. One of the greatest ironies I have seen is the vast number of liberals who hate on him for favoring the rich etc. That massive standard deduction greatly reduced taxes for everyone at the bottom of the tax brackets. Elimination of the SALT deduction screwed over households like mine that are in the top tax brackets. I estimated that I was losing ~$3300 extra to federal tax. Yet somehow folks can't let go of his character flaws while the inept crook controlled by Marxists gets a pass while he and his handlers destroy the country.

The other thing to consider is all the constructed hate on Trump content that to this day fills Tiktok, Imgur, Twitter, et al. Wouldn't surprise me at all if much or even most of that crap is bought and paid for. I don't understand how floods of such content are not better scrutinized by the public. Yes, there's some crap content stirring up the conservatives as well, but the Trump hate content is order of magnitude bigger. Sad that so many are so dumb.
 
Personally, I could care less about whether we was brash and arrogant- so long as his policy was sound.

At least Cheeto Jesus's followers and detractors alike can find unity in His masterful orchestration of Operation Warp Speed.

The vaccines saved humankind from certain death and stopped the virus in its tracks.

Equally important, perhaps, is the fact that the vaccines green-lighted by Cheeto Jesus are essentially free of any side effects.

That is why Cheeto Jesus continues to be a vax cheerleader.

If you need to do some political mending among friends and family to restore civility in your relationships, at least you can find agreement in the vaccine efficacy that Cheeto Jesus hath wrought through His deliverance of the Operation Warp Speed miracle.
 
I still see the little dweebs from Reading walking home from school, alone, with their masks on. Very sad. Those are the leaders of tomorrow. Their parents need a swift thrashing with a large black dildo.

I dunno, while some may indeed be sheep the rest are probably just worn out from this bullshit and forgot to take thier mask off when they left the building/bus/whatever. I've had to wear the f***ing things at work and sometimes ive forgotten until I get into the car and im like f*** this thing and throw it on the seat. Thankfully the mask mandate bullshit where I work ends tomorrow im going to be like THEY NEGOTIATED A TREATY WITH THE VIRUS lol
 
At least Cheeto Jesus's followers and detractors alike can find unity in His masterful orchestration of Operation Warp Speed.

The vaccines saved humankind from certain death and stopped the virus in its tracks.

Equally important, perhaps, is the fact that the vaccines green-lighted by Cheeto Jesus are essentially free of any side effects.

That is why Cheeto Jesus continues to be a vax cheerleader.

If you need to do some political mending among friends and family to restore civility in your relationships, at least you can find agreement in the vaccine efficacy that Cheeto Jesus hath wrought through His deliverance of the Operation Warp Speed miracle.
Am I perceiving that you are un-vaxxed? You should have had both doses and a booster by now. Trust the science and stop being a hazard to your community.
 
Problem I see on both sides is a willingness to get into it over any dumb ass topic. What ever happened to having some tact? You don't have to agree but you also don't have to engage knowing that you still wont agree and its only going to make a family relationship worse.
Thank the Libs, woke Dems for the hatred. They have adopted their ideology as a religion, they're just as bad as Islamic fundamentalists except they are too gutless to take up arms. Trumps election was a call to arms for them because Hillary was already anointed as the keeper of the Obama admin war on us and their radical transformation of the Nation. They still are so filled with hatred for us because we derailed their dreams of a Socialist America modeled on the Western European model. Families were destroyed by the Trump election and the Wuhan flu just accelerated the animosity. With Little Puty's invasion of the Ukraine they are seeing their gains eroded, gun control is dead, they know the DOD budget will increase at the cost of their entitlements and the invasion has shown the folly of Western European pacifism. BLM has proven to be a scam, defund the Police a total disaster and Americans are arming themselves in record numbers. Their President has proven to be a joke, Kackling Kamala an empty pantsuit and they have no answer to rampart inflation and are facing a massive defeat in the midterms. They will double down on their hateful rhetoric because that's all they got. That said life is too short to associate with people who hate you or expect you to be a passive sheeple like them.
 
"Anyway... IMHO Trump's personality flaws were a hindrance to his effectiveness and served to pour gas on the fires of his opposition. Personally, I could care less about whether we was brash and arrogant- so long as his policy was sound. He 'did the right thing' for border security and economic health of the country. One of the greatest ironies I have seen is the vast number of liberals who hate on him for favoring the rich etc. That massive standard deduction greatly reduced taxes for everyone at the bottom of the tax brackets. Elimination of the SALT deduction screwed over households like mine that are in the top tax brackets."

How did Trump favor the rich? The SALT deduction favored upper middle class taxpayers in liberal Northeast States and they hate him for it. My liberal son in law was bitching at Xmas about "Donnie" raising his taxes by eliminating the SALT deduction and I asked him if he didn't agree with Dementia Joe's campaign slogan to" pay your fair share"
Silence!
Yes, I agree Trumps personality turned off middle of the road voters but they are low info citizens. I want a man/woman who will take on the liberal media and the swamp and confront them on their bias and lies.
 
Am I perceiving that you are un-vaxxed? You should have had both doses and a booster by now. Trust the science and stop being a hazard to your community.
Trust the vaccines that were put on the no-liability fast track by Cheeto Jesus?

Not a chance.

Besides, I had COVID19 in an early form and later had omicron. Neither was a big deal.

I am indeed unvaxxed, unmasked and unapologetic.
 
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"Anyway... IMHO Trump's personality flaws were a hindrance to his effectiveness and served to pour gas on the fires of his opposition. Personally, I could care less about whether we was brash and arrogant- so long as his policy was sound. He 'did the right thing' for border security and economic health of the country. One of the greatest ironies I have seen is the vast number of liberals who hate on him for favoring the rich etc. That massive standard deduction greatly reduced taxes for everyone at the bottom of the tax brackets. Elimination of the SALT deduction screwed over households like mine that are in the top tax brackets."

How did Trump favor the rich? The SALT deduction favored upper middle class taxpayers in liberal Northeast States and they hate him for it. My liberal son in law was bitching at Xmas about "Donnie" raising his taxes by eliminating the SALT deduction and I asked him if he didn't agree with Dementia Joe's campaign slogan to" pay your fair share"
Silence!
Yes, I agree Trumps personality turned off middle of the road voters but they are low info citizens. I want a man/woman who will take on the liberal media and the swamp and confront them on their bias and lies.
He didn't favor the rich, but that didn't stop libtards from claiming he did.

Yep I was pissed about the SALT thing but that didn't stop me from voting for him a second time.
 
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