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Just curious as to what the NES reaction would be if a bunch of LGBT people who were passionate about gun rights wanted to join NES and the fight against Healey and other infringers? Would the response be get lost Tinkerbell? Or is there space for others to join the fight? In my mind I don't care what the next person does, I just don't. If they are all for gun rights then they are good in my book.

There are a ton of LGBT on NES. How many of them are in your face about it?
 

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Hermaphrodites have mixed genitalia.
True, but there has never been a confirmed case where both types of gonadal tissue have functioned on the same person, which can hint that there is a dominant trait in the person. Intersex is found in approximately 0.018% of the population, although it largely misconstrued to include more groups and exaggerated to boost numbers to the commonly distributed 1.7%. But even if 1.7% is true, it seems hard to justify setting a new standard of classifying human beings based on these statistics. As stated several times, abnormalities are not the norm.
 

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Sigh...the denial of reality is it's own illness. There are male and females. The problem isn't in the genitalia, it's in the brain. Come up with all the terms you want. XX and XY are about it.
 

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I was in CA and there was a construction site wth 7 portapots. I asked why 7 and they said State Job - LGBTQIA. Huh I said, they’re all guys going into them - no females visible on site Yup, they said.
 
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Just curious as to what the NES reaction would be if a bunch of LGBT people who were passionate about gun rights wanted to join NES and the fight against Healey and other infringers? Would the response be get lost Tinkerbell? Or is there space for others to join the fight? In my mind I don't care what the next person does, I just don't. If they are all for gun rights then they are good in my book.

But the fact remains, there are only 2 genders. Female and male. What people "identify" with is something entirely different. I will believe that gender is "fluid" at a chemical level once dark matter is proven.
 

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True, but there has never been a confirmed case where both types of gonadal tissue have functioned on the same person, which can hint that there is a dominant trait in the person. Intersex is found in approximately 0.018% of the population, although it largely misconstrued to include more groups and exaggerated to boost numbers to the commonly distributed 1.7%. But even if 1.7% is true, it seems hard to justify setting a new standard of classifying human beings based on these statistics. As stated several times, abnormalities are not the norm.

No argument there. It is a tiny proportion.
 
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Mankind had this one figured out since the beginning of time. XX or XY all the way with the exception of male reproductive cells that can go either way to allow male and female children to be produced. This is really so basic.
 
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Just curious as to what the NES reaction would be if a bunch of LGBT people who were passionate about gun rights wanted to join NES and the fight against Healey and other infringers? Would the response be get lost Tinkerbell? Or is there space for others to join the fight? In my mind I don't care what the next person does, I just don't. If they are all for gun rights then they are good in my book.
They can take a hike to never never land. Those types are always insurgents that will redirect everything they touch towards social justice goals- power for themselves over normal sane people. In all the clamoring for more LGBTetc rights when have they ever included other populations? Never. If they were interested in gun rights they would use the power of normal gun owner numbers to get exclusive gun rights for marginalized populations. The LGBTetc crowd can live freely in their populations of higher than heterosexual peoples levels of crime, drug use, disease, depression, domestic abuse and suicide. They hate us and use our tolerance as a club against us I will not fall for it.
 
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2. Usually a doctor takes a moment to figure it out for you when you were born. But if the doctor was to busy the day of a persons birth to bother with it there is a very simple test anyone can do at home for free to find out which of the two by simply reaching down their pants and digging around a little.
 

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that's what festivals are like. it's the 50's anniversary of Woodstock 69. people really do need a break.
But with the portapots the trick has always been to find the least nasty, which is almost always the least used. This tends to be a function of human mobility, queuing theory, etc.

Or are they designating them now? "I see the Transqueer is open, but the Genderf*** is ocupado, and I really need the Genderf***."
 
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This...

That "social decay" stuff is the same mindset that pushed/pushes for gun control too...

and also stuff like
"we hafta ban the drugs that stuff is POYSON!!!!!!! CHILLLLLDREN!"
(and of course, that worked out swimmingly)
"We cant have faggots prancing around in public! what about the chillldren? seeing that? "
not much different from
"Who do they think they are, carrying around guns in public like that? What if children see the guns???" etc same brand of bullshit etc.

"bray bray bray wah wah wah"

These are the same people that set up HOAs because they're pissed that their neighbor parks his A-team replica van on the street and
they think it's ugly, etc, ad nauseam.

-Mike

Do you live next to that guy? I used to see him every day driving down 3 in his A team van.
 

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They can take a hike to never never land. Those types are always insurgents that will redirect everything they touch towards social justice goals- power for themselves over normal sane people. In all the clamoring for more LGBTetc rights when have they ever included other populations? Never. If they were interested in gun rights they would use the power of normal gun owner numbers to get exclusive gun rights for marginalized populations. The LGBTetc crowd can live freely in their populations of higher than heterosexual peoples levels of crime, drug use, disease, depression, domestic abuse and suicide. They hate us and use our tolerance as a club against us I will not fall for it.


Yeah but you are only looking at the liberal SJW types. They are the loudmouth idiots that do more damage to their cause then help it. Instead I would imagine that there are a vast majority of people living very quiet lives, they don't show up and dance in pride parades like fools, they just want to live normal lives. Some of them are gun toters. Why isolate them? I bet they have more in common with the conservative/libertarian side than you can imagine. If you isolate people all it does is drives them straight into the arms of the idiotic SJW/NPCs.
 

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They can take a hike to never never land. Those types are always insurgents that will redirect everything they touch towards social justice goals- power for themselves over normal sane people. In all the clamoring for more LGBTetc rights when have they ever included other populations? Never. If they were interested in gun rights they would use the power of normal gun owner numbers to get exclusive gun rights for marginalized populations. The LGBTetc crowd can live freely in their populations of higher than heterosexual peoples levels of crime, drug use, disease, depression, domestic abuse and suicide. They hate us and use our tolerance as a club against us I will not fall for it.


I call bullshit.

You're mixing up Social Justice Warriors with people who have a non-hetero-sexual orientation. I shoot with a couple of guys that are married to each other. What they do at home is their business. What they do on the range is all I really care about - as in - what direction is that gun pointed in? They're competent gun handlers, nice guys and the only reason I know they're married is because they live in my neighborhood and I see them at the pool.

They come to the range to shoot, not to evangelize or make a political statement of any type.
 

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Most people couldn't care less if you have a penis and wear a dress, or if you have a vagina and want to act like a man. The problem is that the cosmopolitan progressives want to FORCE everyone else into agreeing with their point of view, which is designed from the get go to isolate and incite certain parts of the population so they are at each other's throats. One of the well documented strategies of the progressive movement. They can't win unless they break the population down into smaller isolated groups so they can continue their 5th column takeover of the world through bureaucracy, education (re-education), control of the media, and control of popular culture. Transgender, gay, etc. are just smaller groups they can use to drive their agenda. For instance, progressives all support the Salafist Islamic Fundamentalists who also want to enslave the entire world because they help divide, confuse, and quite frankly kill a lot of the proles they someday want to be Royalty for. They support that kind of genocidal behavior because it distracts everyone from them. So they support the wholesale murder of gay people on one hand by supporting Islamic Terrorists, while on the other side they tell LGBTQUOOJFEOOAS people that they are so concerned about them and they should rise up and force everyone to learn that He and She are no longer valid pronouns even though they describe the vast majority of people. You see what they are doing? Progressives are the most significant threat to freedom that the world has ever faced, in the end, they want to be the new world dominating royalty class while we are all slaves, which is why they just love Communism/Socialism. Don't let them be successful, they have a 100 year head start, but they are very good at distraction, and don't care at all about your freedom or your life. Only their own personal power.
 
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Most people couldn't care less if you have a penis and wear a dress, or if you have a vagina and want to act like a man. The problem is that the cosmopolitan progressives want to FORCE everyone else into agreeing with their point of view, which is designed from the get go to isolate and incite certain parts of the population so they are at each other's throats. One of the well documented strategies of the progressive movement. They can't win unless they break the population down into smaller isolated groups so they can continue their 5th column takeover of the world through bureaucracy, education (re-education), control of the media, and control of popular culture. Transgender, gay, etc. are just smaller groups they can use to drive their agenda. For instance, progressives all support the Salafist Islamic Fundamentalists who also want to enslave the entire world because they help divide, confuse, and quite frankly kill a lot of the proles they someday want to be Royalty for. They support that kind of genocidal behavior because it distracts everyone from them. So they support the wholesale murder of gay people on one hand by supporting Islamic Terrorists, while on the other side they tell LGBTQUOOJFEOOAS people that they are so concerned about them and they should rise up and force everyone to learn that He and She are no longer valid pronouns even though they describe the vast majority of people. You see what they are doing? Progressives are the most significant threat to freedom that the world has ever faced, in the end, they want to be the new world dominating royalty class while we are all slaves, which is why they just love Communism/Socialism. Don't let them be successful, they have a 100 year head start, but they are very good at distraction, and don't care at all about your freedom or your life. Only their own personal power.
Correct!
 
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Yeah but you are only looking at the liberal SJW types. They are the loudmouth idiots that do more damage to their cause then help it. Instead I would imagine that there are a vast majority of people living very quiet lives, they don't show up and dance in pride parades like fools, they just want to live normal lives. Some of them are gun toters. Why isolate them? I bet they have more in common with the conservative/libertarian side than you can imagine. If you isolate people all it does is drives them straight into the arms of the idiotic SJW/NPCs.
To possibly protect some infinitesimal number of people that truly believe they were born with the wrong hardware we should tolerate the perverted trannies seeking to destroy Western civilization? No thanks. And for all the 'gay people are normal people with one thing different' crowd you don't know them that well. Same as the race lies the truth is out there go look at CDC stats for behavior in the gay community. They are not the same with one single different desire. Gays are not your allies and will vote to send you to gay re-education camp if given half a chance. All politics are tribal and they ain't of your tribe.
 

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I just ran into this pronoun bullshit for the first time in my professional career. I had someone from BU law reach out about a placement program for their students and this person had it right in their email signature, above the name of their organization:

[name]
[title]
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Boston University School of Law
[department]
765 Commonwealth Ave., Boston, MA 02215
[phone]​

Makes me not want to bring that crap into my organization.
 
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I just ran into this pronoun bullshit for the first time in my professional career. I had someone from BU law reach out about a placement program for their students and this person had it right in their email signature, above the name of their organization:

[name]
[title]
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Boston University School of Law
[department]
765 Commonwealth Ave., Boston, MA 02215
[phone]​

Makes me not want to bring that crap into my organization.

People normally make their own email signatures. At my law school, I think one or two people have the preferred pronoun email signature and they work in the Public Interest law department, in contrast to the career development people I work with who do not (presumably to avoid offending employers, e.g. you). It was more common at my undergrad. You're going to see it more and more because educational institutions cater to the young and liberal.

All I can say is judge the candidate by their merits and not by a line on an email signature. I've worked with the two public interest people before and let's just say I'm very right wing. I didn't infect any offices with liberalism. If anything, I spread a little conservative and or libertarian love.
 

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People normally make their own email signatures. At my law school, I think one or two people have the preferred pronoun email signature and they work in the Public Interest law department, in contrast to the career development people I work with who do not (presumably to avoid offending employers, e.g. you). It was more common at my undergrad. You're going to see it more and more because educational institutions cater to the young and liberal.

All I can say is judge the candidate by their merits and not by a line on an email signature. I've worked with the two public interest people before and let's just say I'm very right wing. I didn't infect any offices with liberalism. If anything, I spread a little conservative and or libertarian love.


People normally make their own email signatures.


I have a couple personal email accounts and I set the sigs in them based upon what I use them for. I have an email account that's issued by the organization that I work for, and they have a standard for the signature. In fact they send out templates describing exactly how the signature will look because the emails that come from that account represent that organization...
 
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People normally make their own email signatures.

I have a couple personal email accounts and I set the sigs in them based upon what I use them for. I have an email account that's issued by the organization that I work for, and they have a standard for the signature. In fact they send out templates describing exactly how the signature will look because the emails that come from that account represent that organization...

I have worked at places like that before. Other orgs, like law schools, give more discretion to faculty/staff. The faculty secretary at my law school has a rather appropriate quote as her email sig: "Character is how you treat those who can do nothing for you", which I interpret to mean "be extra nice to secretaries because they have the power."

Even if you're given a template, you still make it yourself. You just use the mandated template.
 

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People normally make their own email signatures.

I have a couple personal email accounts and I set the sigs in them based upon what I use them for. I have an email account that's issued by the organization that I work for, and they have a standard for the signature. In fact they send out templates describing exactly how the signature will look because the emails that come from that account represent that organization...

Varies. We have around 100k mailboxes and no sig standard.
 

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I have worked at places like that before. Other orgs, like law schools, give more discretion to faculty/staff. The faculty secretary at my law school has a rather appropriate quote as her email sig: "Character is how you treat those who can do nothing for you", which I interpret to mean "be extra nice to secretaries because they have the power."

Even if you're given a template, you still make it yourself. You just use the mandated template.

Even if you're given a template, you still make it yourself. You just use the mandated template

Say that with a straight face.
 
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Even if you're given a template, you still make it yourself. You just use the mandated template

Say that with a straight face.

I did. Its the individual employee's email signature and its their name on the line. The employee can be fired or disciplined, companies are harder to hold accountable (from the point of view of one customer or one employee or one email recipient).

Your point isn't very clear - is it that employers should require all employees to have the same email signatures, or is it that we should hold employers accountable for employee email signatures? Either proposition is going to result in more widespread use of the preferred pronoun signature line because HR and corporate counsel (assuming the company is big enough to have both) is always going to err on the side of more deference to what isn't going to get them sued.
 

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I did. Its the individual employee's email signature and its their name on the line. The employee can be fired or disciplined, companies are harder to hold accountable (from the point of view of one customer or one employee or one email recipient).

Your point isn't very clear - is it that employers should require all employees to have the same email signatures, or is it that we should hold employers accountable for employee email signatures? Either proposition is going to result in more widespread use of the preferred pronoun signature line because HR and corporate counsel (assuming the company is big enough to have both) is always going to err on the side of more deference to what isn't going to get them sued.

You're going to make a fine attorney.

My point was that her email sig contained her chosen pronouns, and came from her work place. My statement was that my workplace defines my sig for my work email.
 

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If you have a penis you are a man, if you have a vagina you're a woman. Those are medical/physical facts.

I don't care what you THINK you are, you are what you are. If you have a penis you're a MAN, if not you're a women. If you are confused on this you need to see a mental health pro. I might think I'm the Queen of England but I'm NOT.

Except it is more complicated than that.

There are penis equipped people with ovaries for testicles, and vagina equipped people with internal testicles. These are the results of genetic abnormalities or mutations, but these people exist regardless.

What people are confusing here is gender vs sex.

Sex is based on chromosomes, generally XX or XY, with around a 1-2% rate of people who have other combinations of genetics.

Gender is more nuanced. It is based on personal and public perception of identity. Typically, this breaks down into Male and Female, however, this is not absolute.

The other curve ball is sexuality, which is a combination of gender expression and what you find attractive in a partner.

I know people who are Gay, Lesbian, born with a Vagina and internal testicles, (removed during middle school) I know people who had external equipment, but switched to internal. I know people who have only ever been interested in opposite gender partners, I know people who were masculine women looking for soft girly girls to have a relationship with.

None of the above has anything to do on the quality of the person they are. Some were a-holes, some were damn near the best people I have ever known.

To put it in the words of my Grandfather, "I don't care what parts you have now, what parts you were born with, or what parts you find attractive, so long as those parts are attached to a consenting person of age. I don't care what color your skin is, or where you were born. I don't care what name you call God, or even if you are on speaking terms. The only thing things that tell me what kind of person you are is how you help your fellow humans. Will you stop in the rain and snow to offer a lift to a stranger? Will you stop to help someone change a tire or jump start a car? Will you bring a meal over to your neighbor if you hear they have been sick? Will you share the bounty of your hunt or harvest with someone in need who was not as fortunate as you? I may not agree with how you live your life, but it is your life to live, just as my life is mine to live. Just try to make it a better place for those who come after you."
 

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True, but there has never been a confirmed case where both types of gonadal tissue have functioned on the same person, which can hint that there is a dominant trait in the person. Intersex is found in approximately 0.018% of the population, although it largely misconstrued to include more groups and exaggerated to boost numbers to the commonly distributed 1.7%. But even if 1.7% is true, it seems hard to justify setting a new standard of classifying human beings based on these statistics. As stated several times, abnormalities are not the norm.

Someone I went to school with was born with a Vagina, but internal testicles where ovaries should have been.

If they were not removed, it would have caused havoc on their development.

They had to take female Hormone replacement therapy to develop.

They are a woman now, but that is an example of how the internal testicles would have overrode the female development of their body, were it not for medical intervention. They can never have children, and still have some pretty hefty mental health issues because of the ordeal.
 
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