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Im thinking of buying a 22 on a 1911 platform
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dcmdon
NES Member
Here are some considerations to take into account:
Do you care if the slide locks back?
Do you want to maximize accuracy? If so, go with a fixed bbl conversion.
If you want to use it for manipulation practice, go with a standard conversion, in which the entire slide reciprocates.
Don't forget to look at mag prices before you buy. Tactical Solutions makes an excellent kit, but the mags are $75 ea.
Another thing to remember is that Bob Marvel is involved in FOUR !!! .22 conversions.
He designed the original Advantage arms conversions.
He started and sold Marvel precision who markets a .22 conversion.
He currently owns Bob Marvel custom. He will sell you an accurized Advantage Arms kit.
He designed a .22 conversion for Nighthawk Custom in 2012.
All 4 sell variations on similar designs.
I have the AA kit and love it. Its the most affordable kit of the bob marvel designs. The target version with a fixed bbl and target sights is about $250. The standard version with a fully reciprocating slide is a bit less.
The AA kit also has reasonably priced mags at about $19 ea and locks the slide back on an empty mag.
Here's a pic of my AA target kit on my Les Baer lower:
I've got about 2500 rounds through it and still love it. Its as accurate as any .22 handgun I've ever shot. I know people who use these conversions for .22 bullseye league shooting.
I looked into a dedicated high quality custom lower for it built on a Caspian "race ready" frame and the cost ran about $600 from Fusion Firearms. I suspect Remsport would be about the same.
Do you care if the slide locks back?
Do you want to maximize accuracy? If so, go with a fixed bbl conversion.
If you want to use it for manipulation practice, go with a standard conversion, in which the entire slide reciprocates.
Don't forget to look at mag prices before you buy. Tactical Solutions makes an excellent kit, but the mags are $75 ea.
Another thing to remember is that Bob Marvel is involved in FOUR !!! .22 conversions.
He designed the original Advantage arms conversions.
He started and sold Marvel precision who markets a .22 conversion.
He currently owns Bob Marvel custom. He will sell you an accurized Advantage Arms kit.
He designed a .22 conversion for Nighthawk Custom in 2012.
All 4 sell variations on similar designs.
I have the AA kit and love it. Its the most affordable kit of the bob marvel designs. The target version with a fixed bbl and target sights is about $250. The standard version with a fully reciprocating slide is a bit less.
The AA kit also has reasonably priced mags at about $19 ea and locks the slide back on an empty mag.
Here's a pic of my AA target kit on my Les Baer lower:
I've got about 2500 rounds through it and still love it. Its as accurate as any .22 handgun I've ever shot. I know people who use these conversions for .22 bullseye league shooting.
I looked into a dedicated high quality custom lower for it built on a Caspian "race ready" frame and the cost ran about $600 from Fusion Firearms. I suspect Remsport would be about the same.
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dwarven1
Lonely Mountain Arms
He currently owns Bob Marvel custom. He will sell you an accurized Advantage Arms kit.
I have the AA kit and love it. Its the most affordable kit of the bob marvel designs. The target version with a fixed bbl and target sights is about $250. The standard version with a fully reciprocating slide is a bit less.
The AA kit also has reasonably priced mags at about $19 ea and locks the slide back on an empty mag.
Here's a pic of my AA target kit on my Les Baer lower:
I've got about 2500 rounds through it and still love it. Its as accurate as any .22 handgun I've ever shot. I know people who use these conversions for .22 bullseye league shooting.
Don, did you buy this direct through www.advantagearms.com? Looks like prices have gone up; target model is now $350 and standard is $275. Still sounds like a pretty good deal, though. Bobmarvelcustomarms.com directs to another site (which is down) for .22 conversions.
45collector
NES Member
Browning 1911-22. I love it. A little tough to find in MA but worth the wait.
Shoots beautiful and trouble-free right out of the box.
Shoots beautiful and trouble-free right out of the box.
www.tacticalsol.com makes a great .22 conversion
dcmdon
NES Member
Are we talking pure marksmanship, or do you want to practice reloads and that kind of stuff.
If you want to practice reloads or IDPA type shooting you want a kit with last round hold open.
That eliminates most of the kits out there and leaves Advantage Arms as the only reasonably priced conversion with a last round hold open.
If you don't care about last round hold open or absolute accuracy, you can get any number of kits for under $200.
Don
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The only downside is the mags are $75
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/12...ernment-22-long-rifle-10-round-aluminum-matte
You can use $20 Kimber mag and I think promags on a 1911, 2011, it gets expensive
marvelshooter
Banned
I have an original Marvel conversion on a Caspian / Foster frame. It is my primary bullseye .22 and it will shoot with the most expensive .22 target pistols bar none. It also makes for a nice NES username - marvelshooter 
StevieP
NES Member
I just got my first 1911, and before I even got the gun, I got the AA 1911-22T conversion kit. I got it from an eBay seller (NIB, un-used, un-opened) in Michigan for $321 with free shipping and no sales tax.
I love it. My kit came without the slide stop lever, but a quick phone call and email to the company and they put it in the mail to me. Works perfectly with CCI 40 grain 1200fps .22LR ammo available at WM for $25/375. Good stuff.
I need to get to the range for a few more, longer sessions, but so far it seems REALLY accurate. I may spring for their upgraded fiber optic sight.
warwickben
bubba Kalashnikov
Man I really need to get me a .22 conversion for my r1.
Are there kits that don't work with series 80 guns? When I look online they don't really make it clear of they will or won't ..
Are there kits that don't work with series 80 guns? When I look online they don't really make it clear of they will or won't ..
warwickben
bubba Kalashnikov
Sorry for lack of correct words lol.
I wasn't sure if the little level thing that sticks up from the frame on a 80 series to disengage the firing pin block would cause problems.. Maybe I'm over thinking it .
The only conversion kit I've seen In person was the ciener kit on a s&w 1911. I didn't talk to much to the guy cause he was dry firing it over and over with no slide.it hurt to see/hear him do that to a 1911.... While telling me how great it was.
I wasn't sure if the little level thing that sticks up from the frame on a 80 series to disengage the firing pin block would cause problems.. Maybe I'm over thinking it .
The only conversion kit I've seen In person was the ciener kit on a s&w 1911. I didn't talk to much to the guy cause he was dry firing it over and over with no slide.it hurt to see/hear him do that to a 1911.... While telling me how great it was.
I have been using a Marvel Long Slide conversion for several years and I am happy with it. It came with a .72 in 10 shot group target from the factory. I use it on a reciever than was once a custom IPSC gun. This gives me a target pistol that will shoot with the best and a frame and trigger that I am familiar with.
This gun is a little finicky and after much experimantation, I discovered that Blazers were the most reliable ammo. Reliability problems reared their ugly heads when I started to use the gun for steel matches. The tight chamber would cause FTFs after about 200 to 300 rounds. I used a reamer to open up the chamber a bit and now the gun will go over 400 rounds without a problem.
This gun is magazine sensitive; the mags that came with it work fine, but after market replacements can be a problem. This conversion uses steel 22 mags designed for the Colt Ace. I bought a haff dozen replacements from Brownells and all had to be tweaked to work and one has never worked reliably. On the advice of a friend, I bought a couple of Kimber mags; one works like a charm and one won't work at all. As I said my conversion is mag sensitive.
Marvel offers a service that will adjust after market mags. This is probably the best way to go. Unfortunately, I was too stubborn to seek help.
This gun is a little finicky and after much experimantation, I discovered that Blazers were the most reliable ammo. Reliability problems reared their ugly heads when I started to use the gun for steel matches. The tight chamber would cause FTFs after about 200 to 300 rounds. I used a reamer to open up the chamber a bit and now the gun will go over 400 rounds without a problem.
This gun is magazine sensitive; the mags that came with it work fine, but after market replacements can be a problem. This conversion uses steel 22 mags designed for the Colt Ace. I bought a haff dozen replacements from Brownells and all had to be tweaked to work and one has never worked reliably. On the advice of a friend, I bought a couple of Kimber mags; one works like a charm and one won't work at all. As I said my conversion is mag sensitive.
Marvel offers a service that will adjust after market mags. This is probably the best way to go. Unfortunately, I was too stubborn to seek help.
marvelshooter
Banned
The Marvel will work on either series 70 or 80 frames. The only thing I have heard is that a conversion on a series 80 frame does not technically conform to the NRA rule that all safety features on a gun have to work. I don't know anyone who has experienced this but there was a lot of discussion on the Bullseye Forum a while back that because the firing pin block on the frame is not being utilized by the conversion it is in violation.
