In need of a safe, current Winchester died

[Rim Job]

So my "trusty" Winchester 24 gun safe with a La Gard electronic lock finally stopped responding to keypad inputs. Changed out the 9v with multiple good ones to the same result. It's also 9 years old (at least, Tractor Supply Black Friday 2011??). SO, now I'm in the market for a new (and bigger) safe with a mechanical lock. Also looking local, so Eastern Safe it pretty much where I'm looking. I've already looked at Bass Pro / Cabela's / ****'s /

I'm trying to decide between a Sportsman 40

Eastern Security Sportsman 40

www.easternsecuritysafe.com

and a Sportsman 25

Eastern Security Sportsman 25

www.easternsecuritysafe.com

(come on, we all know any one of us would go for the Sportsman 40)

And a dark horse candidate emerges

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/liberty-safe-1776-36-gun-dial-lock-safe-with-75-minute-fire-rating-7636-gym-dp

 

[whatluck]

You may be able to have a mechanical tumbler fit to the safe you have.

Nice name btw.

 

[Rim Job]

You may be able to have a mechanical tumbler fit to the safe you have.

Nice name btw.

Can't even get the door open. Keypad died with door closed. Warming up the angle grinder

 

[icyclefar]

You absolutely can swap the lock on the Winchester 24 with either a better quality mechanical or electronic dial lock.

 

[whatluck]

Can't even get the door open. Keypad died with door closed. Warming up the angle grinder

Is it bolted down? Best place to cut is bottom or back. I bet there's a nondestructive entry for that safe. Might wanna call the locksmith. Might be less fun, but might also be cheaper than you think.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI4RvWvgulc


CALL THE LOCKSMITH!

 

[HorizontalHunter]

Can't even get the door open. Keypad died with door closed. Warming up the angle grinder

I would definitely call them before I want at it with a die grinder.

Bob

 

[looser38]

Easy there gunpowder, patience is a virtue my friend!
You do you, but I personally would exhaust all reasonable options before I break out the fire tools.
YMMV.
Call the experts, or at least call the mfg if possible, and see if they can help you somehow.

 

[teamRR]

Ya no doubt - call a locksmith.

 

[teamRR]

BTW there is probably a way to re pair (literally mean re pair not repair) a keypad, which if its "not responding" may be all you need. Lots of us have those.

 

[JRT]

I can hook you up with a Mass based safe mover who also works on safes. He could have it open in 5 minutes and repair it. Let me know and I will find his info.

 

[whatluck]

Man, I know the odds are low, but it has to be remotely possible to cook off live ammunition in a safe by cutting into it. I know sparks don't come out of the other side of a cut until you break through, but a hole big enough to get your arm in and an ar-15 out has gotta make alot of burning metal.

And my safes are all weighted at the bottom with ammo. Lots of ammo.

 

[union]

For 200 extra I would get the Sportsman 40 if you're still buying. I have the 25 in deluxe model I got through I group buy here a few years ago. I've been happy with it but it fills up fast.

 

[Rim Job]

Man, I know the odds are low, but it has to be remotely possible to cook off live ammunition in a safe by cutting into it. I know sparks don't come out of the other side of a cut until you break through, but a hole big enough to get your arm in and an ar-15 out has gotta make alot of burning metal.

And my safes are all weighted at the bottom with ammo. Lots of ammo.

I have a separate (keyed) cabinet that is larger than the safe just for ammo and reloading components.

I did find out it's a La Gard 3710 keypad. Peeled off the keypad sticker and carefully peeled off the contact board to get to the mounting bolts. Model and serial number were underneath.

 

[Rim Job]

Possible bad battery connection, going to try and resolder

 

[Choctaw]

It wouldn't hurt to try this;

 

[Rim Job]

Well, I resolder the battery connector, and I have a measured 9 volts going into the board. At this point I'm out of ideas

 

[icyclefar]

1-BATTERY KEYPAD, SATIN CHROME

MBA USA, Inc. is a provider of locks, tools and training for locksmiths and security professionals.

mbausa.com

 

[Rim Job]

1-BATTERY KEYPAD, SATIN CHROME

MBA USA, Inc. is a provider of locks, tools and training for locksmiths and security professionals.

mbausa.com

I'll give it a try, will probably cost the same in good quality angle grinder discs. Or I could break out the plasma cutter

 

[jct61765]

Man, I know the odds are low, but it has to be remotely possible to cook off live ammunition in a safe by cutting into it. I know sparks don't come out of the other side of a cut until you break through, but a hole big enough to get your arm in and an ar-15 out has gotta make alot of burning metal.

And my safes are all weighted at the bottom with ammo. Lots of ammo.

Storing ammo in a safe isn’t a good idea.

 

[teamRR]

Storing ammo in a safe isn’t a good idea.

Why?

 

[Amputee Marksman]

If you get it open this lock should work as replacement.

Sargent & Greenleaf S&G Model 6730-100 Mechanical Safe Lock Kit

 

[mwalsh9152]

I would try a locksmith first, but if you get a new safe, those store brand safes from Eastern Security are made in China. The Liberty is at least made in the USA.

 

[whatluck]

Storing ammo in a safe isn’t a good idea.

You store your guns and ammo in separate places? Intruder breaks in, you open your safe, get a gun, go back to the bedroom where the ammo is?

 

[rcwhat]

You store your guns and ammo in separate places? Intruder breaks in, you open your safe, get a gun, go back to the bedroom where the ammo is?

Hd gun doesn’t sleep in the safe for some people

 

[whatluck]

Hd gun doesn’t sleep in the safe for some people

If I sleep in the safe with my guns, does this satisfy secure storage?

 

[Spanz]

You may be able to have a mechanical tumbler fit to the safe you have.

Nice name btw.

odds are you can buy a replacement electronic lock. A lot cheaper than a new safe.


Unless, that is the story to the wife about why you NEED to buy a brand new one

 

[tommyh]

I would try a locksmith first, but if you get a new safe, those store brand safes from Eastern Security are made in China. The Liberty is at least made in the USA.

Not all.....Reed Custom

 

[EJFudd]

Can't even get the door open. Keypad died with door closed. Warming up the angle grinder

At least talk with a locksmith.

 

[NHKevin]

I would try a locksmith first, but if you get a new safe, those store brand safes from Eastern Security are made in China. The Liberty is at least made in the USA.

And they equally suck

 

[Rat187]

Couple of my bunkies from Treble Cove road would be glad to open it...free of charge