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Interest in an informal 'Top Shot' competition?

I'd love to do this. I'm short on skills but long on self deprecation and humor.

WRT to donor guns, I think this is the way to go. Part of the perceived challenge in Top Shot to me is that the weapons are at least relatively new to all. You may shoot an M1A but you don't shoot THIS M1A. You get an advantage from experience but not from the used of a particular piece of very familiar equipment.

You could solve the ammo problem by having an entrance fee to pay for the ammo (one source purchases) or you must bring the required ammo with or receive a DNF.
 
TWtommers said:
I'd love to do this. I'm short on skills but long on self deprecation and humor.

WRT to donor guns, I think this is the way to go. Part of the perceived challenge in Top Shot to me is that the weapons are at least relatively new to all. You may shoot an M1A but you don't shoot THIS M1A. You get an advantage from experience but not from the used of a particular piece of very familiar equipment.

You could solve the ammo problem by having an entrance fee to pay for the ammo (one source purchases) or you must bring the required ammo with or receive a DNF.
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The problem with donor guns is the accuracy events would take FOREVER. For the slow fire stages of a rifle NMC, it would take 20 minutes per shooter. (It wouldn't be fair to use different donor rifles, one may be zeroed better or more accurate than another.)
 
Donor guns would require that one contestant shoots at a time. If we had 4 stages, then we would all have to use the same exact 4 guns so that some people don't have mechanical advantage. If one donor gun was better than another, then you might as well bring your own stuff. This will add to the length of time the match will take.

I really like the run what you brung idea. One thing I know about NES'rs is that they are always willing to let others shoot their toys. I'm sure we could have a "borrowing" thread at some point before the match to get guns into the hands of those who need them.
 
I'd say that donor will be the "specialist" who will stand by the weapon while people take turns. I know, this sounds like donors get a shaft, but in any event you got to have volunteers and people helping, as well as competing. The "specialist" - donor would be the best person to clear a jam or whatever, since I presume that he is familiar with the firearm. He will supply ammo that he is comfortable shooting from the weapon and bill to the event.

As for zeroing in, I'd say, you get a scope (perhaps specialist could help with scoping) and a bunch of shots. 5 best counts, so you'll get a chance to make adjustments, but it would still have a chance factor so noobs are not at dramatic disadvantage against old-timers.
 
... oh, one more things, loosers take penalty shots at the drinkup afterwards and winners are buying. ... just to make things more interesting.
 
Boris said:
I'd say that donor will be the "specialist" who will stand by the weapon while people take turns. I know, this sounds like donors get a shaft, but in any event you got to have volunteers and people helping, as well as competing. The "specialist" - donor would be the best person to clear a jam or whatever, since I presume that he is familiar with the firearm. He will supply ammo that he is comfortable shooting from the weapon and bill to the event.

As for zeroing in, I'd say, you get a scope (perhaps specialist could help with scoping) and a bunch of shots. 5 best counts, so you'll get a chance to make adjustments, but it would still have a chance factor so noobs are not at dramatic disadvantage against old-timers.
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It should only take about a month of Sundays then to complete the match. [thinking]
 
M1911 said:
Yup.

We've got to figure out how to create a match that can be shot in a day.
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Yeah. Donor guns is workable if it's a couple guys screwing around at the range. If it's a real match, I don't think it is.

That said, the requirements for the stages I outlined based on Dan's suggestion can be met by most shooters. 22 handgun, 22 rifle, centerfire handgun, centerfire rifle, shotgun. Anyone who's been a shooter any length of time probably has those covered.
 
Sounds awesome! I would be in if it happens.

Then again, we could always save time, skip the match and just give Supermoto a trophy... [shocked] [smile]
 
The simplest method for a course of fire is to use established competition formats. Do a 30 shot National Match Bullseye course for .22 pistol, a 25 bird round of trap for shotgun, a 30-shot NRA smallbore course for .22 rifle (Prone, Kneeling, Standing), a short range National Match course for Highpower using reduced size targets, and either plates or something like an IDPA classifier for centerfire pistol. If you do it at Harvard, you could have all matches going simultaneously at different ranges and then run relays to move from event to event. The slow ones will be the trap and action pistol stages as you can only run one individual at a time through them. Also the shotgun range at Harvard has no trap houses just regular traps but that's a minor obstacle. Getting permission to use the 300 yard range for highpower would require board approval but should be doable. Running it that way should allow you to put 40-50 shooters through the match and still get it all done in less than a day.
 
TheFaz said:
The simplest method for a course of fire is to use established competition formats. Do a 30 shot National Match Bullseye course for .22 pistol, a 25 bird round of trap for shotgun, a 30-shot NRA smallbore course for .22 rifle (Prone, Kneeling, Standing), a short range National Match course for Highpower using reduced size targets, and either plates or something like an IDPA classifier for centerfire pistol. If you do it at Harvard, you could have all matches going simultaneously at different ranges and then run relays to move from event to event. The slow ones will be the trap and action pistol stages as you can only run one individual at a time through them. Also the shotgun range at Harvard has no trap houses just regular traps but that's a minor obstacle. Getting permission to use the 300 yard range for highpower would require board approval but should be doable. Running it that way should allow you to put 40-50 shooters through the match and still get it all done in less than a day.
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This looks like the fastest solution. Attendence will be marginal.
 
Um... Top shot doesn't have traditional matches. Wouldn't it be more interesting to take the traditional out of the match and make it something more unique that people aren't ordinarily prepared for? And it should use firearms/bows/knifes that are provided so the playing field is level - everyone using the same stuff, and it's not their stuff? Just sayin'...
 

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