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The MA term you're looking for is firearm, which defers to the roster(s). That's why the Shockwave is hard to get (in my understanding)Well let's look at the Mossberg shockwave. Short barrel cannot be shouldered does not meet the definition of a pistol revolver or rifle under Massachusetts law it is classified as something other than one of the above and you can't get them in Massachusetts. It seems to me that the gun that you're asking about is similar to the shockwave in that regard so you're not going to buy one complete from an FFL
I thought that's what it was but I'm on my phone and really can't dig into the archives easily I thank you for the clarification . as always I bow to your Superior knowledgeThe MA term you're looking for is firearm, which defers to the roster(s). That's why the Shockwave is hard to get (in my understanding)
Nothing superior about it. Just trying to help pick up where it looked like you had a gap.I thought that's what it was but I'm on my phone and really can't dig into the archives easily I thank you for the clarification . as always I bow to your Superior knowledge
I think the barrel length has a lot to do with that- weren't the originals like 14.5" and the compliant ones are 16 or 18?pretty sure FS sells shockwaves so....
you are incorrect. you are confusing federal and state definitions. You do not apply state definitions to the object when determining if it is or is not an assault weapon, you apply federal definitions. See my post #2 in this thread.This is correct, FS and most FFLs are selling the 18" barreled versions and they are selling them as shotguns as defined under MA law.
The 14.5" version of the Shockwave is a firearm, not a shotgun under MA law. It is legal to own with an LTC.
To answer the original question, the VRF14 is going to fall under the AWB if its a firearm (pistol) because it has the following two features:
1. Magwell outside of grip
2. Weighs >50oz (VRF14 = 105 oz)
If it was a shotgun under MA law, it'd still be an AW because it has the following two features:
1. Pistol grip
2. Detachable mag
Correct. The original shockwave is 14.375" barrel with a OAL of 26.37"I think the barrel length has a lot to do with that- weren't the originals like 14.5" and the compliant ones are 16 or 18?