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Mittens or Jeb? I'd rather have a Trump monarchy then another gopcuck president.
doesn’t matter. Any head will do.
Trump already screwed the pooch by denying the possibility of a peaceful transition of leadership. He should have kept his mouth shut.... which is one of his major issues
 

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I for one am growing tired of the constant temper tantrums over anything and everything, I wonder if other voters see it like I do..we’ll have two camps..blame it on trump or bitch slap the Dems for the bs they’ve pulled since he was elected...
 
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I’m not buying it. If the Democrats can ‘steal’ the election, it should be a wash. The Republicans should be doing the same thing if it’s so easy. Unless of course the Republicans are too principled or too stupid to cheat. I do t think they’re either.
 

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I for one am growing tired of the constant temper tantrums over anything and everything, I wonder if other voters see it like I do..we’ll have two camps..blame it on trump or bitch slap the Dems for the bs they’ve pulled since he was elected...
Frankly I’m more pissed off at the do nothing GOP. Anybody who thought this last days timeline on exposing the crap we’ve known about for years has only helped the Donkey Asses we are fighting.
Our GOP spends too much time sitting on their balls and piss flaps.
 

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I’m not buying it. If the Democrats can ‘steal’ the election, it should be a wash. The Republicans should be doing the same thing if it’s so easy. Unless of course the Republicans are too principled or too stupid to cheat. I do t think they’re either.
How about instead of outcheating (and guaranteeing a cheater will win) we just ensure election integrity? Voter ID, in-person, only absentee ballots upon request. Why the hell did we not do that when R’s had House, Senate, and WH.
 

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This might be it right here.

Let's play this out:

Hillary was supposed to win, RBG retire, the grand conspiracy march on.
Trump broke their carefully planned and executed scheme. He wasn't supposed to win. He wasn't even supposed to run, but the GOP played by the rules and when he won the primary, they ran him.
Then he won.

The left screeched and cried and refused to believe it. The Democrats started digging for dirt to get Trump out. The problem is that being the bombastic, egotistical b*stard he is, all the dirt that would have hurt him had been discovered and used by everyone else over the years. There were no skeletons to dig up. So they started making things up. We get "scandal" after scandal all of which appear to be their own doings with Trumps name glued over their own. Nothing sticks and eventually gets exposed as fakery. They go so far as to impeach which predictably doesn't stick.

So here we are. You would think that the Democrats would run someone who could beat Trump, but instead they trot out candidates with the same values that America outside of leftist cities rejected. America is rejecting those values again. So the Democrats have to run someone nice and neutral to have a chance. All they have left is Biden. Biden isn't lefty enough for the radical side of the Democratic party but too wishy washy write them off and try to win the middle. So, they are set up to lose again.

What are their options?

Try to win normally. Unlikely to succeed.
Try to cheat to win. Unlikely to succeed at this point since the cat is out of the bag already. The whole world is watching and everything is going to be scrutinized.
Do nothing and try again in four years. An achievable goal.
Cheat to lose.

I believe that at this point, with a candidate that would be lucky to hold together long enough to make inauguration, Hillary II waiting to replace him, and Trump lining up for a repeat of 2016 their best bet for crushing the Republican party is to try to make Trump's second term somehow illegitimate. If they make the election process questionable, make the results arguable, and get a decision via the courts rather than the traditional way, you have already called the President's legitimacy into question. If they then concentrate on burning everything they can to the ground (both literally and figuratively) and making everyone in America hurt and angry they can point to Trump and say "There is the reason! There is the cause! Do you want another Republican or do you want us to fix it?" and in four years they can run their socialist and lefty platform and people will say "Yes, please. Anything to make the pain stop!".

I believe the Democrats are going to shoot the moon. They are going to try to lose so hard they win. When you are out of options you will try anything.
Lol, but who are they going to run? Shitlery has zero chance against a pet rock with an R stuck on it.
 

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Best thing the GOP can do is to ensure someone besides Trump claims office in 2021. The peaceful transition of power is a cornerstone of democracy. Find some other posterboy to run the country and at least you can stave off riots.
The current riots are astroturf, manufactured, lol. If you don't believe so then you haven't been paying attention.
 

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I’m not buying it. If the Democrats can ‘steal’ the election, it should be a wash. The Republicans should be doing the same thing if it’s so easy. Unless of course the Republicans are too principled or too stupid to cheat. I do t think they’re either.
Lol the difference is the dems have a lot more experience rigging votes. They only need to f*** up a handful of states, since only about 10 decide the election....
 
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There's a reason the left wants mail in voting. They thought they had rigged it enough last election, and were wrong. New tactic this time around. At this point, even a Democratic Caucus may be more reliable than this fraud.
 

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How about instead of outcheating (and guaranteeing a cheater will win) we just ensure election integrity? Voter ID, in-person, only absentee ballots upon request. Why the hell did we not do that when R’s had House, Senate, and WH.
Because those decisions are made at the state level.
 
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Plan on voting via absentee ballot, my question is there a cut off date for receiving mail in/absentee ballots by state law.
So they are sending out mail in post cards. What are you supposed to get in the mail when you fill it out and send it in? Do you get an actual mail in ballot?

Wife filled one out before the primaries and got squat. They sent a new batch of post cards for the general election.

When I had scheduled travel years back I called city hall and requested an absentee ballot. Got something in the mail and thought I was good but didn't open it until the week before traveling to find it was an APPLiCATION to get an actual absentee ballot and I had missed the application deadline.
 

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I’m not buying it. If the Democrats can ‘steal’ the election, it should be a wash. The Republicans should be doing the same thing if it’s so easy. Unless of course the Republicans are too principled or too stupid to cheat. I do t think they’re either.
Remember, this is more like a major production Movie, than an actual election.

A perfectly filmed and edited movie can still flop at the box office. What the Dems are going for is a blockbuster. It needs to be theatrical to matter.

If they just stuff all the boxes in all major states, the landslide will just be boring flop.

To keep things fired up (and thus people distracted) they must go for the "where can we win by just a point, but not five" situations.
 
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Best thing the GOP can do is to ensure someone besides Trump claims office in 2021. The peaceful transition of power is a cornerstone of democracy. Find some other posterboy to run the country and at least you can stave off riots.
I think we missed what you said through the double dempanic masks you are wearing?
 

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It needs to be agenda item 1 during the next R supermajority.
You'da thunk it would have been one then.

Yet it wasn't. And the Donks are bound and determined to make sure there's never a Republican majority - let alone supermajority - ever again.
 

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Is anyone really surprised? Did anyone not see this coming?

Here is the thing. Trump is a buffoon. If he was half as eloquent as Osama or Clinton or even GWBush, he would go down in history as one of the greatest to hold the office. But in part, it was his unpolished, non politician, loud mouth personality that got him elected in the first place. Voters in this country kept saying they were sick of politics as usual. Trump winning in '16 proved it.
Trump ran on a "Drain the Swamp" platform which is why I voted for him, and why I will again. But all of the political theater since he took office is just the Swamp fighting back.
Pelosi, Schumer, Biden etc are all swamp things. What surprised many is that Comey and most of the FBI as well as many Federal agencies filled with political hacks, are largely swamp things too.
The swamp will try anything and everything to keep him from being reelected. Including exaggerating a pandemic, sparking racial riots and mail in ballots.
Go to the polls.
 

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Not only is Trump appointing a replacement for Darth Vader Ginsburg but the voting shenanigans are being challenged to SCOTUS....


Folks might want to get out their eye/ear protection
 

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This thread is fear-based BS. The only difference netween this and any other election (other than Covid) is a fear-mongering fool in the White House. I realize I'm in the minority opinion here, but I like you guys anyhow.
 

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Is anyone really surprised? Did anyone not see this coming?

Here is the thing. Trump is a buffoon. If he was half as eloquent as Osama or Clinton or even GWBush, he would go down in history as one of the greatest to hold the office. But in part, it was his unpolished, non politician, loud mouth personality that got him elected in the first place. Voters in this country kept saying they were sick of politics as usual. Trump winning in '16 proved it.
Trump ran on a "Drain the Swamp" platform which is why I voted for him, and why I will again. But all of the political theater since he took office is just the Swamp fighting back.
Pelosi, Schumer, Biden etc are all swamp things. What surprised many is that Comey and most of the FBI as well as many Federal agencies filled with political hacks, are largely swamp things too.
The swamp will try anything and everything to keep him from being reelected. Including exaggerating a pandemic, sparking racial riots and mail in ballots.
Go to the polls.
Trump has proved he IS the swamp. just a dirtier one. Fencer, I respect your usually well thought out posts, but we sure disagree on this.
 
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Trump has proved he IS the swam[. just a dirtier one.
Sure, old sport. Trump makes Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, et al look like the artificially-inseminated children of George Washington and Saint Francis. We just like our politicians dirty.

But seriously, you'd provide some evidence supporting that argument if you had any.
 

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Sure, old sport. Trump makes Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, et al look like the artificially-inseminated children of George Washington and Saint Francis. We just like our politicians dirty.

But seriously, you'd provide some evidence supporting that argument if you had any.
Wouldn't matter what I say. But jst look at the prime requirement for him to hire someone: be either totally unqualified and kiss his ass before anything else, or if you're female be unqualified and/or pretty, and again loyalty to him personally ahead of country or Constitution.
 
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