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June NBER study claims "right-to-carry" led to 29% rise in violent crime in US cities

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MORE GUNS, MORE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES: THE EFFECTS OF RIGHT-TO-CARRY ON CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR AND POLICING IN US CITIES
Using a novel data set on crime in the most highly populated US cities, we showed that RTC laws cause an increase in firearm violent crimes, robberies and aggravated assaults, and provide suggestive evidence of increases in overall violent crimes, robberies and aggravated assaults as well. We emphasize the importance of rigorous robustness checks of the various assumptions made in an empirical model. To that end, we use both context-dependent qualitative and quantitative demonstrations of the robustness of our population-weighted least squares regression to the possibility of non-parallel pretrends and bias due to heterogeneous treatment effect.
We then provide important new information on two mechanisms that underlie these increases in crime following the adoption of RTC laws. The increasing firearm violence is facilitated by a massive 35 percent increase in gun theft (p = 0.06), with further crime stimulus flowing from diminished police effectiveness, as reflected in a 13 percent decline in violent crime clearance rates. Taking the midpoint of the relevant elasticities discussed above, these two factors would generate an 8.7 percent increase in violent crime, when the total increase in violent crime from RTC laws is estimated to be 13 percent.35 On this accounting, roughly two-thirds of the increase in violent crime resulting from RTC laws is caused by impaired policing and increased gun theft. It is plausible that two other factors whose individual effects we have not been able to estimate in this study contribute to this increase in firearm violence: 1) criminals who previously committed crime without carrying guns decided to arm themselves in response to the increased potential of armed resistance and 2) some permit holders responded to stressful situations by engaging in criminal violence with their newly carried weapons. At the same time, any benefits from deterrence or thwarting/incapacitating criminals from increased gun carrying under RTC laws would dampen crime. All we can conclude at this time is that the combined effect of these unobserved factors seems to explain only half as much of the violent crime increase as the mechanisms we have measured.
These findings are illuminating for both policymakers and researchers considering the effect of different types of gun laws on criminal behavior. Our study investigates the criminogenic effects associated with increased gun carrying. The same mechanisms we identify in our paper with respect to increased gun carrying are relevant in other policy contexts as legal changes that promote or decrease gun theft will presumably have predictable repercussions for criminal activity. Similarly, the end of the federal assault weapons ban and the attendant federal ban on high-capacity magazine ban or eliminating gunfree zones might well be associated with declines in police effectiveness. Certainly, the experience in the Parkland High School mass shooting in 2018 and the Uvalde mass shooting of 2022 were examples of police reluctance to confront a teenage killer armed with an AR15. A key contribution of our article is to advance our understanding of the mechanisms governing criminal and police responses to gun laws, thereby clarifying how these laws may affect crime and public safety.

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Right-to-carry laws lead to more violent crime: Isn’t that a huge surprise?
 
Perhaps if urban criminals were arrested and prosecuted as this very intelligent and grounded man so correctly suggests, the crime rates might actually go down in those city swamps


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Shooting them dead in their tracks works amazingly well too, and there's ZERO recidivism rate.
 
Dounohue and Cook have been self-publishing such White Papers for a decade or more, as they can’t get their work accepted in peer-reviewed journals. The below pretty much says - we wrote this and posted on this website.

"NBER working papers are circulated for discussion and comment purposes. They have not been peer-reviewed or been subject to the review by the NBER Board of Directors that accompanies official NBER publications."

Their thesis boils down to a footnote: "14 Changes in permit holder behavior may also indirectly influence the utility for other individuals. First, permit holders may be emboldened to go to higher crime areas or carry more valuables, which can indirectly increase crime committed by others by increasing the availability of suitable targets and the size of payouts. Second, if the victim is carrying a gun on their person or in their vehicle, this can be taken as part of the robbery, increasing the expected income of the robbery (Ludwig and Cook, 2004). These mechanisms would increase the net expected income of robberies, particularly for firearm robberies, since robbers with firearms are less likely to shun a firearm-carrying victim."

Do CCW holders more often choose to go places carrying more valuables where they are more likely to assaulted and/or robbed? Their Ivory Tower in Cambridge must not have any windows…

Armed criminals are more likely to rob a CCW holder? LOL! Did they miss the "Concealed" part of CCW? 😅

They say the increase in crime from increased CCW isn’t those CCW holders committing crime, but being more often victims of crime. 🙄
 
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are licensed gun owners committing the vast majority of these crimes? If not, then these stats are meaningless. If the rise in violent crime is conducted by people with criminal records or illegally carrying firearms, then the right to carry laws, constitutional carry, etc is irrelevant as the people committing the crimes cant legally possess let alone carry a firearm to begin with. Like usual, gun owners and firearms the easy low hanging fruit that all issues can be pinned on. Lets not blame the escalating hate rhetoric from media sources and politicians. Lets not blame the increasingly radical DAs who refuse to prosecute crimes or flat out ignore antics committed by anyone not of the "right wing". Lets not blame urban city policies which throw all the "undesirables" into freakin ghettos masquerading as "affordable housing" instead of actually helping people get out of poverty.

NAAAA, gun owners are definately to blame for everything. Hell, if it wasnt for those evil AR-15s and right to carry laws, RUSSIA NEVER INVADES UKRAINE AND COVID DOESNT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!

BAD BAD GUN OWNERS, SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!!!!!
 
More often than not, when I eat watermelon at night, I fall asleep.

Ergo, watermelon must have something in it that causes me to sleep. It's a proven fact.

What a terrible correlation but not causation paper that was. Just awful. I'm 100% sure the uptick in violent crime in the last 4 years in DC is solely due to the forced issuance of CCW permits with massive restrictions. Because these people are going out there and blowing urban yoofs away at record rates. [rofl]


This NBER study is kinda funny:


The cost of jobs saved by PPP loans (which were a total scam - the first ones seemed OK, after that they were not necessary. And FWIW, 2 out of 3 rounds (3 out of 4?) were passed by Trumpo, so let's not get political) was somewhere between $160-250K. 4 times the salaries they were trying to save.

They could have mailed paychecks to people and it would have been more efficient. Stupid, but more efficient.

I have a client who made $400K on PPP loans. He had $ in the bank to pay the 8 weeks that his people were out. Then the .gov came in and gave him PPP money - but more than he needed. He reapplied and reapplied again at the insistence of the government. At the end of it all, the Commonwealth called HIM. "Biff - you've done such a great job borrowing money from the federales and not paying it back. We're so proud of you. We'd like to give you an $80,000 grant. Just because. Whaddayasay?"
 
they reference 1980 in their study as the period in time where most states banned concealed carry or made it hard to get the permit to do so..... yet 1980 is one of the years with the highest homicide rate in the nations history.
 
are licensed gun owners committing the vast majority of these crimes?
that's a statistic that will never happen. but me personally, i do believe that now, in certain areas/cities, we may see that number nudge forward a bit. some of you will sit on the 2a throne and deny it, but it will happen. it's inevitable.
 
Perhaps if urban criminals were arrested and prosecuted as this very intelligent and grounded man so correctly suggests, the crime rates might actually go down in those city swamps


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The American justice system has clearly failed us. Though I believe that this is by design. Read any news article and you will quickly discover that a vast majority of crimes are being committed by repeat offenders, people that have been in the system and allowed back into society, some released without even bail. What do you think is going to happen when you allow a rapist or a murderer back onto the streets? Most will return to the life they knew before. Tell me, how do you rehabilitate someone who has beaten a helpless 75-year-old man to death or a person who has raped a child? People who commit these kinds of crimes should never be allowed back into society, ever! They are just too dangerous.
 
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