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Law Enforcement (LE) Only, MA Resident Restricted Items
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chris_1001
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Was she hot AND crazy? Or just crazy?
My sign is “Leo” do I get a pass on some cool LEO only stuff?
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Grendizer138
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Mine is virgo, and I definitely haven’t had any virgins.
chris_1001
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Playing devil’s advocate, I briefly had a FFL in Fall River before I got screwed because the FRB google street viewed the place right before issuing (due to Covid they didn’t come out in person).
With my FFL in hand and a business license from Fall River to boot, I was denied the state license because FRB said while my ground floor unit was commercial and open to the public, the fact there was residential above me in their view triggered the state law banning gun shops out of residential units.
Didn’t matter that you couldn’t physically get upstairs through my unit and instead had to go around outside.
However if that hadn’t happened, I would’ve been uber cautious myself.
I was 22 with a 2,500 dollar a year overhead running out of a friend’s store front.
A lawyer god forbid I needed to fight one of the AG’s BS decrees likely would’ve dragged on for years costing well north of six figures with no guarantee of winning.
The biggest thing I think the country could do to fight clearly unconstitutional laws is allow them to be challenged without a defendant having to risk criminal liability, I.E. challenging a rule or law just on the basis that it may be unconstitutional, and secondly that should the defendant/petitioner win, the state must pay the petitioner’s legal fees.
I.E. the penalty for having a “sawed off shotgun” in MA is upto life in prison, a Form 1’d Mossberg 590 is considered a Sawed off Shotgun, but a factory 590 SBS from Mossberg is fine.
Such a stupid law, but who wants to step into the cauldron and risk life in prison for it?
And you don’t have standing to challenge it, until you actually put a shorter barrel on a receiver or even modify a factor SBS.
With my FFL in hand and a business license from Fall River to boot, I was denied the state license because FRB said while my ground floor unit was commercial and open to the public, the fact there was residential above me in their view triggered the state law banning gun shops out of residential units.
Didn’t matter that you couldn’t physically get upstairs through my unit and instead had to go around outside.
However if that hadn’t happened, I would’ve been uber cautious myself.
I was 22 with a 2,500 dollar a year overhead running out of a friend’s store front.
A lawyer god forbid I needed to fight one of the AG’s BS decrees likely would’ve dragged on for years costing well north of six figures with no guarantee of winning.
The biggest thing I think the country could do to fight clearly unconstitutional laws is allow them to be challenged without a defendant having to risk criminal liability, I.E. challenging a rule or law just on the basis that it may be unconstitutional, and secondly that should the defendant/petitioner win, the state must pay the petitioner’s legal fees.
I.E. the penalty for having a “sawed off shotgun” in MA is upto life in prison, a Form 1’d Mossberg 590 is considered a Sawed off Shotgun, but a factory 590 SBS from Mossberg is fine.
Such a stupid law, but who wants to step into the cauldron and risk life in prison for it?
And you don’t have standing to challenge it, until you actually put a shorter barrel on a receiver or even modify a factor SBS.
It was and still is very common for a building to have commercial on street-level and apartments/condos above. AG Guns instantly comes to mind here. Such buildings were built over the last 5 yrs in Downtown Mansfield beside the RR tracks.
I remember asking Glidden about this type of scenario back in 1998 . . . he never answered that question, and I'm pretty sure that he didn't know the answer. Sadly, I'm not surprised at what happened to your venture. The 1998 law had many aspects to it to kill off dealers and it really did a good job of doing just that.
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Why are these LE only?
and what LEO would buy at these prices?
The only thing close to blue label pricing is your G44 price. That is a good price for a G44, and I would buy one for practice from you if I was in your state.
A fricken G17 is <$500, and that is with some options. I also never knew they sold a blue label full size with 10 round mags.
I'm good as I'm in a normal state, but if you advertise blue label shit, I'd recommend you advertise it at blue label prices.
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Capricorns better be in there, lol
Grendizer138
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We’re already on to dominatrix porn and FFL zoning, dude.
Bigfudge16
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Did I miss a post again? WTF
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The AG Regs make it a "consumer protection" violation to sell Glocks to mere mortals. Thus, dealers can sell them to LEOs only in MA.
That is NOT the same as blue label guns. Selling Blue Label guns requires a specific contract with Glock (or other mfrs) and the pricing to the dealer (and LEO consumer) is much less. Lots of dealers advertise as "law enforcement dealers" but aren't blue label dealers and screw the unsuspecting LEO. Law Enforcement Supply in Waltham is one of those . . . he sold a new Glock to an acquaintance of mine who was a LEO at a price >$100 over blue label. I ran into that acquaintance at Braintree R&P cleaning it just after buying it for duty use . . . he bragged about it and wasn't happy when I responded to what he told me that he paid for it. This was probably 15 years ago. I verified the non-blue label dealer status with Glock's general counsel back then when I was talking with him about the AG Regs issues.
Someone that qualifies for blue label pricing would be nuts(or lazy) to pay those prices.
Blue Label shop I've bought from 22 price list: SRJ Blue Label
Seems like a strange position to try to sell LE only items for $100 more than what they can be bought just down the road. I do note that there are only blue label dealers and not LE distributors in MA, so there will typically be a markup to the individual purchase price in the above.
I've also run into the folks that advertise blue label, but sell at higher prices all over the place. There are several in NH. A shame there isn't an LE Distributor here in NH as the Blue Label folks like MFL and Shooters add a significant markup.
Oh well. Not my business. I shouldn't have even chimed in earlier.
There aren't tons of blue label dealers in each state. The mfrs control who and how many in each state. IIRC, Interstate Arms was the only Glock blue label dealer in Eastern MA. Shooters Outpost is a major Sig dealer, but they aren't blue label for Sig IIRC . . . I think that they are blue label for Glock. Atlantic Tactical is a blue label dealer for what guns they sell (and they only sell guns to LEOs per their contract with those dealers).
So for Sig, I have to go to Epping, NH for LE pricing and for Walther (I'm interested in the PDP F series), I have to go direct to Walther and ship to a local FFL in NH. Etc.
Atlantic Tactical's website will show legit LE pricing for what they sell.
