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Please quote the law that makes you believe this? I do not mean a website of a politician, but the actual MGL or CMR that talks to original configuration.IANAL but I believe the firearm had to be manufactured as a fixed mag for it to be "legal." I imagine you could do it to a parts kit build though.
I ask the same. Please quote me the relevant law.
The AWB for a rifle says first it has to be semi auto with a detachable magazine. Since you will have a rifle w/o a detachable magazine, by definition it cannot be an assault weapon.Hey there everyone! I live in mass and have my LTC, unrestricted class-a. I'm interested in purchasing a brand new AK platform rifle. The question is, is installing a fixed mag sufficient for this to be permissible in Massachusetts?
I am looking into the comp mag. You have to strip the firearm and install plates / screws. They also offer the kit with some epoxy to permanently seat the Fastener in which it could only be removed by drilling it out. I would like it to be eventually removable because I often go shooting in New Hampshire and would like to use some of my pre ban mags. What is the deal with installing fixed mags? Thanks in advance
Anyone just joining a public gun forum and asking legal questions is either dumb or looking to trap someone. You want to pretend to look smarter than the rest of us go for it.Please quote the law that makes you believe this? I do not mean a website of a politician, but the actual MGL or CMR that talks to original configuration.
I ask the same. Please quote me the relevant law.
The AWB for a rifle says first it has to be semi auto with a detachable magazine. Since you will have a rifle w/o a detachable magazine, by definition it cannot be an assault weapon.
Some foolish answers above. Yes, our fine AG declared "once an assault weapon always an assault weapon" but as we know, no where in MGL, CMR or USC of 13-sep-1994 does that concept exist. Like all the guns that we FFLs regularly massify, changing an AK to be fixed mag would make it "not an assault weapon".
The method of fixing will matter. I think the method you describe that requires disassembly, screws, etc would be pretty solid. If you look at an SKS for example, two screws and one adapter and you have turned a fixed 10rd mag rifle into one capable of accepting AK mags. No one will argue that the base SKS is an assault weapon because it is too easily converted.
Also note you have essentially no case law on this one way or another. We have the one case of an AR pistol with a fixed mag that was manufactured by JC Arms that he defended and won in court. But we don't know if the decision was solely on the end product or on the process of his manufacturing.
But a black and white reading of the law, yes you should be fine. And those that say otherwise, ask them to quote the law making what you are doing NOT legal. Remember, unless expressly prohibited, everything is legal.
Get an sksHey there everyone! I live in mass and have my LTC, unrestricted class-a. I'm interested in purchasing a brand new AK platform rifle. The question is, is installing a fixed mag sufficient for this to be permissible in Massachusetts?
I am looking into the comp mag. You have to strip the firearm and install plates / screws. They also offer the kit with some epoxy to permanently seat the Fastener in which it could only be removed by drilling it out. I would like it to be eventually removable because I often go shooting in New Hampshire and would like to use some of my pre ban mags. What is the deal with installing fixed mags? Thanks in advance
On behalf of newbies out there, please help them, you guys have a wealth of knowledge and most coming into this hobby may seem to ask some dumb questions but what you don't know, you don't know and they're seeking advice.Anyone just joining a public gun forum and asking legal questions is either dumb or looking to trap someone. You want to pretend to look smarter than the rest of us go for it.
Maybe do a search first instead of being lazy. Or, I always assume first, it's a setup.On behalf of newbies out there, please help them, you guys have a wealth of knowledge and most coming into this hobby may seem to ask some dumb questions but what you don't know, you don't know and they're seeking advice.
When I first joined this site, I had no idea of all the laws and all things that most of the regulars take for granted. I did not grow up around firearms, it was all new to me and I had boys that where very interested as well, I needed to learn for my safety and more importantly theirs.
I learnt 90% if not more from ALL the great members on this site, from how to handle firearms safely, reloading and even casting bullets. Not to mention all the none firearm stuff I learn from everyone here.
I was in a store yesterday with my youngest who was buying his "own" (had access to mine) first rifle with his own money. There was another young man, about the same age as my son, seeking advice on fixed mag lowers and he had been giving so much contradicting information the poor kid was lost. The FFL gave him great and correct advice, very friendly helping this young man out.
So while I know we're sometimes skeptical of new posters, go easy on them, some really need your advice and help and they have no-one to turn too. Please let's not scare everyone off, we need new people in the hobby.
I owe my entire knowledge from everyone here, everyone at that time was very welcoming, friendly and I know I asked some really stupid questions (still do) and I have to thank everyone here for their help.
Harry
Hey numbnutz... why is there a forum named "Gun Laws" then?
I own JC Arms.Please quote the law that makes you believe this? I do not mean a website of a politician, but the actual MGL or CMR that talks to original configuration.
I ask the same. Please quote me the relevant law.
The AWB for a rifle says first it has to be semi auto with a detachable magazine. Since you will have a rifle w/o a detachable magazine, by definition it cannot be an assault weapon.
Some foolish answers above. Yes, our fine AG declared "once an assault weapon always an assault weapon" but as we know, no where in MGL, CMR or USC of 13-sep-1994 does that concept exist. Like all the guns that we FFLs regularly massify, changing an AK to be fixed mag would make it "not an assault weapon".
The method of fixing will matter. I think the method you describe that requires disassembly, screws, etc would be pretty solid. If you look at an SKS for example, two screws and one adapter and you have turned a fixed 10rd mag rifle into one capable of accepting AK mags. No one will argue that the base SKS is an assault weapon because it is too easily converted.
Also note you have essentially no case law on this one way or another. We have the one case of an AR pistol with a fixed mag that was manufactured by JC Arms that he defended and won in court. But we don't know if the decision was solely on the end product or on the process of his manufacturing.
But a black and white reading of the law, yes you should be fine. And those that say otherwise, ask them to quote the law making what you are doing NOT legal. Remember, unless expressly prohibited, everything is legal.
InYou guys are grouchy today. Time for a trip to Florida where its warm and sunny and you can buy pretty much any gun you want.
I did answer your question.Wow!
Short of hiring an attorney with a specialty in MA-firearms laws, where else do you want me to go and get an idea about this specific question? I asked a question regarding laws regarding firearms on a sub-forum specifically about firearm laws. Get a grip, buddy!!!
My answer is worth what you paid for it.Characters in answer: 2
Characters being an obnoxious, stereotype crothedy old man on a forum: 400
Oh! We’ve gotten to the part where we mock people for spelling? Right on. That’s awesome, now we don’t have to even think about the obvious intended meaning and we can go straight to ad hominem attacks!Crotchety* If you want to be insulting at least please spell it correctly or else you look like a dumbass.
The AK comp-mag loads from the side. Check it out on their site/YT, it's sad that the product exists but it's a cool idea for what it is.