Looking for someone to mill out my 80s

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Bought some 80% AR-15 lowers planning to use a drill press as a mill. Turns out that's a bad idea, thanks NES. Could anyone with a mill or a CNC get them done for me? What would you charge per lower? And by the way, I'm being serious.
 
Problem with that is if someone else does the work for you, then they're technically a manufacturer.

I do not know about your state. In my state it's legal to finish 80% lowers, and it's legal on a federal level.

That being said, I won't mill out 80's for anyone else. I've had a friend or two come to my house and use my equipment, but that's perfectly legal because they're finishing the 80's for their own use.
 
VigilantesLiberi said:
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Bought some 80% AR-15 lowers planning to use a drill press as a mill. Turns out that's a bad idea, thanks NES. Could anyone with a mill or a CNC get them done for me? What would you charge per lower? And by the way, I'm being serious.
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as said above, you have to do 100% of the work yourself.

Even "build parties" where someone had a CNC mill where everyone just loaded their lower and hit run have been questionable.
 
First of all forget the drill press, get a router and an end mill.

Second, you need to do the work yourself, you cannot hire someone to do it for you. It is not extremely difficult but it is not easy either. Plan on the first one you do as a throw away and a learning experience.

Forget the CNC machine unless you buy your own. Having somebody set up the CNC so you just push the button is a no no.
 
VigilantesLiberi said:
Bought some 80% AR-15 lowers planning to use a drill press as a mill. Turns out that's a bad idea, thanks NES. Could anyone with a mill or a CNC get them done for me? What would you charge per lower? And by the way, I'm being serious.
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Nobody is going to do this for you unless they're an 07. (And even in that case, you just defeated the whole purpose, because theyd have to engrave and so on. ) What you're asking them to do is a felony otherwise. This is the type of thing that's best kept off the internet. 🤣
 
allen-1 said:
Problem with that is if someone else does the work for you, then they're technically a manufacturer.

I do not know about your state. In my state it's legal to finish 80% lowers, and it's legal on a federal level.

That being said, I won't mill out 80's for anyone else. I've had a friend or two come to my house and use my equipment, but that's perfectly legal because they're finishing the 80's for their own use.
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Did you have a patrick swazee moment with them on your mill?
 
VigilantesLiberi said:
Bought some 80% AR-15 lowers planning to use a drill press as a mill. Turns out that's a bad idea, thanks NES. Could anyone with a mill or a CNC get them done for me? What would you charge per lower? And by the way, I'm being serious.
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Yeah, no - I don't need to go to jail
 
appraiser said:
as said above, you have to do 100% of the work yourself.

Even "build parties" where someone had a CNC mill where everyone just loaded their lower and hit run have been questionable.
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This - if I were to help someone with my micromill they would need to sit down and do their own CAM work with me looking over their shoulder in addition to swapping tools out on the mill.

A drill press, router and jig will get it done without going to jail.
 
This is just one of the reasons I got my own milling machine some years back. I've had good lower jigs for a while too. Having the AR-15 blueprint also helps. ;) As already mentioned, you cannot, legally, have someone else do the work for you. YOU need to run the machine for the task.

As you would expect, the AFT flipped a few times on what could be [legally] done by people. I'm not sure what the current "rules" are for this. I do know that I still have some 80s that I need to work on. Of course, I'm also waiting for a replacement electronic part to arrive from Grizzly for my mill (ETA is second half of October).
 
Jig, a hand held variable speed router with the end mill bit and a drill (drill press helps but not needed) and you are good to go. It's not that hard. I made a few small mistakes on the first one I did but it it is fully functional with a few non function impacting blemishes. After the first one, the rest were even easier.
 
Thanks. I will probably go the hand router path. Just wanted to see what my options are. It makes sense, and has nothing to do with 10/23 now that I think about it.
 
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^this. I have one and have done 3 AR-15 lowers and 1 AR-10 lower. It was very easy but just take your time and don’t try to cut out too much material with each pass.
 
pastera said:
if I were to help someone with my micromill
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i think with some creativity from a DA it still can be used against you to still convict you for manufacturing.
as you will be renting out your premises and hardware to others.
 
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