M&P 9C Removable grips question. Chaffing on thumb...

[ryanmlt1]

So Im still waiting for my LTC. Meanwhile I have been looking for a gun. My GF just got a shield 9 and I love that gun! Shes a member of MFS so I have been trying all the handguns I can.

I love the shield but we dont need 2 of them... So I want a bigger compact double stack preferably...

I have tried the MP 9C a few times, the one at MFS has the large back strap grip. I have small hands and it feels big. When I shoot the back lip of the grip below the slide hits the back part of my thumb on the bone and chafes it. Its still red after shooting a few hours ago. It doesn't hurt but doesn't feel good. I shot the SR9C and it doesnt bother me as much. I shot the SR after the M&P so it was hard to tell if it was chaffing me aswell.

My question is will the thinner back strap make a large difference in the way the gun feels? Does anyone else have this problem with this gun or other guns? I'm still a noob so sorry ahead of time if this is ridiculous...

 

[Arlo39]

When I had mine I used the med. Back strap with no problems, and I have small hands. Ask the staff at MFS if they can change the back strap for you next time you go. The M&P 9c is a great gun you will go wrong buying one. I only traded mine because I wanted a Glock.

 

[92G]

if you are dead-set on the M&P 9c, then 1 of the 3 available backstraps will definitely work for you. i run the largest one but i think many prefer the medium or small. it is a nice feature of the gun.

i realize your OP is asking strictly about the M&P backstraps, but since you are a new buyer i just want to bring your attention to a few aspects of the M&P 9c series that i didn't know when i purchased:

1. required trigger job w apex reset kit
2. magazine disconnect (removed mine but was PITA and requires replacement parts)
3. magazines are damn near impossible to fill to capacity. my woman cannot get the magazine past 7 rounds even with a mag loader. i can get 10 round in there but just barely. if i didn't have my uplula loader it would be almost impossible. in the field i would be screwed without my mag loader.
4. full magazine cannot seat with the slide forward (in battery). the slide must be locked back to insert a full magazine. this makes it impossible to actually load the gun with 11 rounds (10+1). i find this extremely irritating.

having spoken to others i am aware my issues are not unique to me. many others have these too.

by the time you factor in the trigger (approx $100), mag disconnect issue, inability to load 11 rounds and need for a $30 UpLuLa, the M&P becomes far less attractive IMO.

while the M&Ps are unquestionably quality designed guns, i feel the striker fire market is too competitive to consider M&Ps anything special.


while i like my M&P9c, the factory trigger is probably the worst trigger of any striker gun. my ruger SR9c or any glock i own have been far better value purchases with very nice audible and tactile trigger resets, didn't require any post-purchase work. also i can load ruger or glock mags without injury to my fingers.
the mag disconnect on the SR9c can be removed by a 12 year old and gun functions great without it.

FYI i shoot at MFS fairly often so if you want to see what i'm talking about, shoot me a PM and we can meet up.

 

[FrugalFannie]

I have to disagree with prior post. I really like my 9C but have upgraded to a sig. There is no comparison between the two but for the money the m&p line is a very good value and extremely reliable.

I had Greg Derr do a trigger job. My magazines full easily (and I'm a lady), I have used this gun in many classes and have fired hundreds of rounds through it in weekend courses and never had a problem with any FTE/FTF or feeding issues. Never had problems inserting magazines with the slide closed

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[92G]

I have to disagree with prior post. I really like my 9C but have upgraded to a sig. There is no comparison between the two but for the money the m&p line is a very good value and extremely reliable.

I had Greg Derr do a trigger job. My magazines full easily (and I'm a lady), I have used this gun in many classes and have fired hundreds of rounds through it in weekend courses and never had a problem with any FTE/FTF or feeding issues. Never had problems inserting magazines with the slide closed

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i am glad you are able to load your 9c magazine. You are the only female i know who is able to load them.

a quick google search will show that literally hundreds or thousands of people have the above issues with the M&P 9c. Youtube videos mention the same thing. Look at phaliaphotography's review...she does nice work.

for the money, the M&P 9c sucks.
After spending $$ on trigger job, getting mag disconnect fixed and uplula mag loader, one could have had a gen4 glock and be done.

again, if you dont believe me, try loading a new 9c magazine to 10rounds and see for yourself

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by a glock

^^this

 

[mursenary4]

whats the point of buying a double stack gun that has no prebans?? Youll be stuck with 10 round capacity with a fat grip

 

[92G]

whats the point of buying a double stack gun that has no prebans?? Youll be stuck with 10 round capacity with a fat grip

this is an excellent question, especially with regards to 9mm double stack (less so with .40).

 

[ryanmlt1]

So give me suggestions of another choice for a 9mm compact. I never considered Pre-ban mag capacity for instance... I think the Glock 19 is to big and the 26 is close to 800 bucks for a Gen2... I like the Glocks but 800 for an outdated used gun just doesn't make sense to me. I like the thought of having a 17 round mag though.

Maybe the SR9C is the better gun for me.

What else are some good choices with a pre-ban with over 10rd capacity?

 

[92G]

So give me suggestions of another choice for a 9mm compact. I never considered Pre-ban mag capacity for instance... I think the Glock 19 is to big and the 26 is close to 800 bucks for a Gen2... I like the Glocks but 800 for an outdated used gun just doesn't make sense to me. I like the thought of having a 17 round mag though.

Maybe the SR9C is the better gun for me.

What else are some good choices with a pre-ban with over 10rd capacity?

a gen3 or gen4 glock can be had for $700 or less. And dont avoid gen2 models....just cuz theyre older they are still awesome guns. My gen2 glock30 is a beast. Plus via FTF purchase doesnt require tax.

This is an example, looks like good deal:
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/249346-Wts-wtt-gen-4-glock-26-upgraded-700-firm!

if i were looking for a carry 9mm, persoanlly i would do the following:

-M&P shield if desiring single stack
-glock 26 or SR9c for double stack

for me i cannot have a gun w magazine disconnect. It is a dealbreaker for me.

i am in no way bashing the m&p 9c series....it just has several issues i listed earlier that when factored all together, become expensive and annoying.

the sr9c was the first gun i bought when i moved to MA. i have >3000 rounds through mine and i couldnt be more impressed. It doesnt require any after purchase work except removing the mag disconnect which is easy anytime u clean the striker channel.

 

[ryanmlt1]

a gen3 or gen4 glock can be had for $700 or less. And dont avoid gen2 models....just cuz theyre older they are still awesome guns. My gen2 glock30 is a beast. Plus via FTF purchase doesnt require tax.

if i were looking for a carry 9mm, persoanlly i would do the following:

-M&P shield if desiring single stack
-glock 26 or SR9c for double stack

for me i cannot have a gun w magazine disconnect. It is a dealbreaker for me.

i am in no way bashing the m&p 9c series....it just has several issues i listed earlier that when factored all together, become expensive and annoying.

the sr9c was the first gun i bought when i moved to MA. i have >3000 rounds through mine and i couldnt be more impressed. It doesnt require any after purchase work except removing the mag disconnect which is easy anytime u clean the striker channel.

What do you mean by magazine disconnect? Mag release?

 

[92G]

What do you mean by magazine disconnect? Mag release?

Google it.
gun cannot fire w magazine removed.
it is awful for many reasons.

basically a metal blocker prevents firing pin from moving forward. When mag inserted it deactivates the mechanism thus allows to fire.

 

[ryanmlt1]

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[browncoat]

whats the point of buying a double stack gun that has no prebans?? Youll be stuck with 10 round capacity with a fat grip

I got a 40c, and the capacity doesn't bother me because in a couple of years I'll be moving to a state where preban is meaningless. If I planned to stay in MA for the long haul, getting a Glock becomes a much more attractive proposition.

 

[Gammon]

if you are dead-set on the M&P 9c, then 1 of the 3 available backstraps will definitely work for you. i run the largest one but i think many prefer the medium or small. it is a nice feature of the gun.

i realize your OP is asking strictly about the M&P backstraps, but since you are a new buyer i just want to bring your attention to a few aspects of the M&P 9c series that i didn't know when i purchased:

1. required trigger job w apex reset kit
2. magazine disconnect (removed mine but was PITA and requires replacement parts)
3. magazines are damn near impossible to fill to capacity. my woman cannot get the magazine past 7 rounds even with a mag loader. i can get 10 round in there but just barely. if i didn't have my uplula loader it would be almost impossible. in the field i would be screwed without my mag loader.
4. full magazine cannot seat with the slide forward (in battery). the slide must be locked back to insert a full magazine. this makes it impossible to actually load the gun with 11 rounds (10+1). i find this extremely irritating.

having spoken to others i am aware my issues are not unique to me. many others have these too.

by the time you factor in the trigger (approx $100), mag disconnect issue, inability to load 11 rounds and need for a $30 UpLuLa, the M&P becomes far less attractive IMO.

while the M&Ps are unquestionably quality designed guns, i feel the striker fire market is too competitive to consider M&Ps anything special.


while i like my M&P9c, the factory trigger is probably the worst trigger of any striker gun. my ruger SR9c or any glock i own have been far better value purchases with very nice audible and tactile trigger resets, didn't require any post-purchase work. also i can load ruger or glock mags without injury to my fingers.
the mag disconnect on the SR9c can be removed by a 12 year old and gun functions great without it.

FYI i shoot at MFS fairly often so if you want to see what i'm talking about, shoot me a PM and we can meet up.

S&W really dropped the ball with their "new and improved" 10 round mags. I was shooting a 9mm M&P competitively at the time and had nothing but trouble with these mags. The solution was simple, but a PITA. The follower was too long and bottomed out in the mag before the last (10th) round would fit. Also, the spring was too long so it was necessary to remove one coil. Cutting one coil off of the mag spring and trimming the follower solved the problem. This procedure in available on youtube.

 

[92G]

S&W really dropped the ball with their "new and improved" 10 round mags. I was shooting a 9mm M&P competitively at the time and had nothing but trouble with these mags. The solution was simple, but a PITA. The follower was too long and bottomed out in the mag before the last (10th) round would fit. Also, the spring was too long so it was necessary to remove one coil. Cutting one coil off of the mag spring and trimming the follower solved the problem. This procedure in available on youtube.

since i have a bunch of 9c mags, i am going to try this mag fixing hopefully this wkd. Thx!

 

[MX338]

I did this to my 9c mags and they both take 10 rounds and they can be inserted with the slide closed. I like my 9c but I had to do close to $200 worth of trigger work. BEC trigger job , I installed an apex ram and the apex aluminum trigger and disabled the mag disconnect. Now its awesome. I actually really like my 9c. I have a shield too but the 9c is a much better shooter. If you buy one used than its not too expensive, but you can get a gen 2 glock for like 500.
I always wanted to try a glock 19 and 26 but have not had the chance.

 

[S. Kelly]

Why is it that the M&P9c comes with a mag disconnector, versus the M&P40c, which doesn't? Is it a foolish MA Complaint issue? Every one I've seen or called about (M&P9c) has a mag disconnect.

 

[drgrant]

by the time you factor in the trigger (approx $100), mag disconnect issue, inability to load 11 rounds and need for a $30 UpLuLa, the M&P becomes far less attractive IMO.

You don't need an UpLula you just need to get brave and shave the legs on the followers down a little bit. Smith turned into a bunch of 'tards and made them too big for some ****ed up reason or another, and the core problem is that they bottom out way too early. A dremel and 5 minutes fixes the magazine. (ETA: See Gammon's post above.. )

Also, you effed up on the mag disconnect- you can order an MA compliant SKU that doesn't even have it in the
gun, so that eliminates that from the gripe list.

-Mike

 

[drgrant]

Why is it that the M&P9c comes with a mag disconnector, versus the M&P40c, which doesn't? Is it a foolish MA Complaint issue? Every one I've seen or called about (M&P9c) has a mag disconnect.

Well, sort of... but honestly its it's just dealers chinsing out and sucking for the wrong SKUs because the others are out of stock or something. Instead of saying "well, normally we can get that, but my distributor doesn't have any right now" etc. It could also be an issue with distributors not requesting enough 9mm
guns.

The reason the 40c's are more likely to not have it is because the "moron luster" of .40 is finally starting to wear off (much to the chagrin of gun shop commandos everywhere) and I have no doubt that they sell far less of them than they do the 9's. .40s get dumped a lot more so there is a lot more recycling of .40 models than 9's, which lowers the need for new guns.

-Mike