With the correct replica marking..Would that remove the probable cause for the police to even check to see if it is real..?
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MA H3476 definition of "Replica Firearms" UPDATE Bill "dead" for this session
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Whutmeworry
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Whoever this Rep Dan Cullinane is, he is a f*cktard.
Whutmeworry
NES Member
Unfortunately they covered that as well, as the stripe has to be "non-removable": (ii) is marked with a non-removable orange stripe which is at least 1 inch in width and runs the entire length of the barrel on each side and the front end of the barrel;...
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Chevy 2 65
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Dan Cullinane
Massachusetts State Representative
Daniel R. Cullinane is an American politician serving in the Massachusetts House of Representatives since September 2013. He is a Boston resident from the neighborhood of Dorchester and a member of the Democratic Party. Wikipedia
Office: Massachusetts State Representative since 2013
Don't worry you just have to have a really cool paint job that goes with the Orange racing stripes!
Unless this state takes a huge swing we are screwed.
There's what 375k licensed gun owners in ma.
4.5 million voters..... 3mil showed up for 2012 election.
So to have any real impact on anything here in mass all 375k of us need to stand up and show up.
Anyone remember when pellet guns bbs and pellets needed fid to buy?
Unless this state takes a huge swing we are screwed.
There's what 375k licensed gun owners in ma.
4.5 million voters..... 3mil showed up for 2012 election.
So to have any real impact on anything here in mass all 375k of us need to stand up and show up.
Anyone remember when pellet guns bbs and pellets needed fid to buy?
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Whutmeworry
NES Member
I take a little (very little) comfort in a recent report - can't remember exactly where I heard it - that MA FID/LTC holders have jumped by 66% since 2010. I realize there is still a looooong way to go before there will be enough of us to be a serious political force, but without a little hope and faith, why even try?
Am I reading this right, but there's no law against possession, only import, manufacture, sell, holding for sale, and distribution? It also does not list penalties, but does allow a LEO to confiscate?
My rookie attempt at reading and understanding seems like this would stop the sale of replicas in MA, but do nothing to prevent someone from bringing them in for their personal use from another state. If you were an idiot with it, an officer could confiscate, or show up to an Airsoft match and take everyones.
My rookie attempt at reading and understanding seems like this would stop the sale of replicas in MA, but do nothing to prevent someone from bringing them in for their personal use from another state. If you were an idiot with it, an officer could confiscate, or show up to an Airsoft match and take everyones.
Lip
Army Veteran
Another win for new hampster.
Whutmeworry
NES Member
Anyone know how this hearing turned out???
The way that will play out:
Hunter and Clifford in Weston will get a finger wag to avoid any smudges which might keep them out of honor society at Princeton.
Pho, Juan, and Tyree in Boston will get sent to juvenile hall as DCF destroys their parents' lives.
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Oh, that makes it all ok.
thorin
NES Member
Rep. Dan Cullinane's bill that would require orange stripes be painted on all replica guns, including BB and pellet guns, had a hearing where the gun lobby said criminals could easily disguise their weapons as toys. But DeLeo clearly wants to follow Walsh's lead by doing something to help police do their jobs and avoid unnecessary shootings or deaths.
http://concord.wickedlocal.com/article/20160114/NEWS/160118255/?Start=3
http://concord.wickedlocal.com/article/20160114/NEWS/160118255/?Start=3
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Though no one testified in opposition to the bill at the hearing, committee co-chair Rep. Harold Naughton asked supporters to respond to a comment Wallace made in a Boston Globe article suggesting the legislation would be ineffective because criminals could add markings to a real gun to make it appear to be a fake.
"http://www.patriotledger.com/news/20160108/mass-lawmakers-urged-to-pass-fake-gun-bill
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They'll order it online or go to NH, ME, VT, et al.
You don't get it....."THEY will see nothing and understand even LESS. The "rest of the people" you speak of don't give a flying rat's ass. They are happy to be led around with a ring in their nose, a boot on their neck, government's hand in their wallets and a government gun to their head.
You are, of course, absolutely right. There will always be neighboring states and the on-line approach. I have a little remaining hope that when they get all the way through the checkout process on the Walmart web page and it tells them you can't have that in MA, they will start to grumble about stupid laws. I have a little hope that the MA AG will start sending letter threatening prosecution to Amazon and other on-line retailers if they ship to MA. I want to see the sporting goods stores in NH refusing to sell to a MA billing address because of a stupid law. All stuff we have to deal with on some level all the time.
I have some last remaining hope that something like this might finally make some small percent of the population start to wake up.
As I said, you are right. They won't. Somehow we will end up to blame for their minor inconvenience, not the representatives that passed this. I think I will stop there. I have a much more cynical rant brewing and it is way to early for that.
thorin
NES Member
Me too. How about we channel that energy into contacting the members of the Joint Committee on Public Safety & Homeland Security and our individual reps, and convince them that this bill "needs further study" due to all of its obvious idiocy?
Here's the members of the committee. I'll try to collect all their contact info into one spot this morning so nobody has to go chase it down
Whutmeworry
NES Member
Wrote my State Rep and Senator and let them know how asinine I think this proposal is FWIW. My Sen (Ross) is on the Joint Committee on Public Safety and Homeland Security. It's really kind of sad that no one on the pro gun side seems to care.
thorin
NES Member
Joint Public Safety comittee member contact info
OK, I compiled a lit of Joint Public Safety committee members contact info. I've been meaning to do this for awhile as it can be reused for any of the anti-2a measures that come down the pike which usually go through this committee. We had a similar list a few years ago with the mess at the State House and it came in real handy then but I think some of the members have changed. Snail mail and telephone calls are better than emails but it is really easy to whip up an email that goes to all members.
When writing an email, put one of the below addresses in the "To" field, and copy the rest of the addresses below individually into the CC or BCC field. I tried to do it as one long semicolon delimited text but the post automatically shortened the text string, so you will have to enter the addresses individually.
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
Here's the individual info of the House and Senate members on the committee
House Members
Harold P. Naughton, Jr. House Chairman (D Clinton)
State House Room 167 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2230 Fax: 617-722-9278 Email: [email protected] District Office 200 High Street, 1st Floor Clinton, MA 01510 Phone: 978-365-1955 Fax: 978-368-8458
Linda Dean Campbell House Vice Chair (D Methuen)
State House Room 236 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2430F ax: 617-722-9278 Email: [email protected]
Bruce J. Ayers (D Quincy)
State House Room 167 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2230 Email: [email protected]
James J. Dwyer (D Woburn)
State House Room 254 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2220 Fax: 617-626-0831 Email: [email protected]
Alan Silvia (D Fall River)
State House Room 174B oston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2877 Fax: 617-626-0168 Email: [email protected]
Paul Tucker (D Salem)
State House Room 134 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2400 Email: [email protected]
Timothy R. Whelan (R Brewster)
State House Room 39 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2014 Email: [email protected]
James M. Cantwell (D Marshfield)
State House Room 22 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2140 Fax: 617-626-0835 Email: [email protected]
Paul R. Heroux (D Attleboro)
State House Room 540 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2090 Fax: 617-626-0335 Email: [email protected] District Office 444 Newport Ave. Attleboro, MA 02703 Phone: 508-639-9511
Rady Mom (D Lowell)
State House Room 443 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2460 Email: [email protected]
David T. Vieira (R East Falmouth)
State House Room 167 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2230 Email: [email protected] District Office 346 Gifford Street Unit 3 Falmouth, MA 02540 Phone: 508-548-8683
Senate Members
James E. Timilty Senate Chair (D Walpole)
State House Room 507 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617 722-1222 Fax: 617-722-1056 Email: [email protected]
Michael O. Moore Senate Vice Chair (D Millbury)
State House Room 109-B Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-1485 Fax: 617-722-1066 Email: [email protected] District Office3 6 North Quinsigamond Avenue, Shrewsbury, MA 01545 Phone: (508) 757-0323 x 13
Sonia Chang-Diaz (D Boston)
State House Room 111 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-1673 Fax: 617-722-1079Email: [email protected]
Jennifer L. Flanagan (D Leominster)
State House Room 312D Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-1230 Fax: 617-722-1130 Email: [email protected] District Office 24 Church Street, Leominster, MA 01453 Phone: 978-534-3388
James T. Welch (D West Springfield)
State House Room 309 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-1660 Email: [email protected] District Office 32-34 Hampden Street Springfield, MA 01103 Phone: 413-737-7756 Fax: 413-306-5179
Richard J. Ross Assistant Minority Leader (R Wrentham)
State House Room 419 Boston, MA 0213 3Phone: 617-722-1555 Fax: 617-722-1054 Email: [email protected]
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OK, I compiled a lit of Joint Public Safety committee members contact info. I've been meaning to do this for awhile as it can be reused for any of the anti-2a measures that come down the pike which usually go through this committee. We had a similar list a few years ago with the mess at the State House and it came in real handy then but I think some of the members have changed. Snail mail and telephone calls are better than emails but it is really easy to whip up an email that goes to all members.
When writing an email, put one of the below addresses in the "To" field, and copy the rest of the addresses below individually into the CC or BCC field. I tried to do it as one long semicolon delimited text but the post automatically shortened the text string, so you will have to enter the addresses individually.
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
Here's the individual info of the House and Senate members on the committee
House Members
Harold P. Naughton, Jr. House Chairman (D Clinton)
State House Room 167 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2230 Fax: 617-722-9278 Email: [email protected] District Office 200 High Street, 1st Floor Clinton, MA 01510 Phone: 978-365-1955 Fax: 978-368-8458
Linda Dean Campbell House Vice Chair (D Methuen)
State House Room 236 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2430F ax: 617-722-9278 Email: [email protected]
Bruce J. Ayers (D Quincy)
State House Room 167 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2230 Email: [email protected]
James J. Dwyer (D Woburn)
State House Room 254 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2220 Fax: 617-626-0831 Email: [email protected]
Alan Silvia (D Fall River)
State House Room 174B oston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2877 Fax: 617-626-0168 Email: [email protected]
Paul Tucker (D Salem)
State House Room 134 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2400 Email: [email protected]
Timothy R. Whelan (R Brewster)
State House Room 39 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2014 Email: [email protected]
James M. Cantwell (D Marshfield)
State House Room 22 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2140 Fax: 617-626-0835 Email: [email protected]
Paul R. Heroux (D Attleboro)
State House Room 540 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2090 Fax: 617-626-0335 Email: [email protected] District Office 444 Newport Ave. Attleboro, MA 02703 Phone: 508-639-9511
Rady Mom (D Lowell)
State House Room 443 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2460 Email: [email protected]
David T. Vieira (R East Falmouth)
State House Room 167 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-2230 Email: [email protected] District Office 346 Gifford Street Unit 3 Falmouth, MA 02540 Phone: 508-548-8683
Senate Members
James E. Timilty Senate Chair (D Walpole)
State House Room 507 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617 722-1222 Fax: 617-722-1056 Email: [email protected]
Michael O. Moore Senate Vice Chair (D Millbury)
State House Room 109-B Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-1485 Fax: 617-722-1066 Email: [email protected] District Office3 6 North Quinsigamond Avenue, Shrewsbury, MA 01545 Phone: (508) 757-0323 x 13
Sonia Chang-Diaz (D Boston)
State House Room 111 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-1673 Fax: 617-722-1079Email: [email protected]
Jennifer L. Flanagan (D Leominster)
State House Room 312D Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-1230 Fax: 617-722-1130 Email: [email protected] District Office 24 Church Street, Leominster, MA 01453 Phone: 978-534-3388
James T. Welch (D West Springfield)
State House Room 309 Boston, MA 02133 Phone: 617-722-1660 Email: [email protected] District Office 32-34 Hampden Street Springfield, MA 01103 Phone: 413-737-7756 Fax: 413-306-5179
Richard J. Ross Assistant Minority Leader (R Wrentham)
State House Room 419 Boston, MA 0213 3Phone: 617-722-1555 Fax: 617-722-1054 Email: [email protected]
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thorin
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If anyone knows how I can post one long string of semicolon separated email addresses without the software automatically shortening it with a ... between the first & last addresses, I would be curious how to do it.
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It'll probably include nail guns,grease guns and glue guns .
I know. Make them take an oath to uphold the constitution of the United States .....![[wink]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/002.gif "Wink [wink]")
Only if the penalty for a violation was a hanging from the town square and really carried a few out!
I'm pretty sure lawyers are taught to lie in law school.
Boom.
Here's a mail merge with their Capital Hill addresses:
It has some conditionals for middle initials and suffixes like "Jr.", be careful if you muck with those parts.
Obviously edit the text and return address.
View attachment joint-public-safety_merge.zip
I got the data from a previous post, but I might have buggered it in the translation, so let me know if there's errors.
If you don't have Word or it can't handle the document or something, I can probably just make you a PDF with all the pages you can print yourself.
It has some conditionals for middle initials and suffixes like "Jr.", be careful if you muck with those parts.
Obviously edit the text and return address.
View attachment joint-public-safety_merge.zip
I got the data from a previous post, but I might have buggered it in the translation, so let me know if there's errors.
If you don't have Word or it can't handle the document or something, I can probably just make you a PDF with all the pages you can print yourself.
thorin
NES Member
The Senate vice-chairman of the public-safety committee, Michael O. Moore, D-Millbury, said Thursday: “This is a matter of public safety. The last thing we want is a child or anyone getting shot by a police officer because they had a gun that looked realistically like an authentic firearm.”
http://www.telegram.com/article/20160123/news/160129585
http://www.telegram.com/article/20160123/news/160129585
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