MA: Identifying Pre-Ban Glock Mags

[mattlach]

Nope, all done.

Oh well.

Lets see how challenges to this law go. :/

 

[drgrant]

@mattlach practically speaking though people will keep buying the things (from wherever) and just pretend that they've owned them all along. But no mass dealer is going to be selling them openly.

 

[mattlach]

@mattlach practically speaking though people will keep buying the things (from wherever) and just pretend that they've owned them all along. But no mass dealer is going to be selling them openly.

I'm not really a fan of taking advantage of the fact that it is difficult/impossible to prove I am doing something illegal to do something illegal. Even though I disagree with the law, it just feels wrong (and risky).

Either way, it won't work for me. I didn't have a mass license early enough to be able to claim that I legally bought it before either 8/2 or the "emergency" thingy was signed (whichever applies in this case).

For a long time I've been one of those "range buddies" who never had my own license but would go with friends. (Yes I compensated them for ammunition costs, I'm not a leech). I wanted to, but I was always busy with something else, and never got around to it.

Then when I heard this law was coming, I finally decided to go ahead and do it, as I saw a lot of doors closing, but the process took longer than I anticipated. (and honestly, I got a late start). Oh well.

 

[drgrant]

I'm not really a fan of taking advantage of the fact that it is difficult/impossible to prove I am doing something illegal to do something illegal. Even though I disagree with the law, it just feels wrong (and risky).



Either way, it won't work for me. I didn't have a mass license early enough to be able to claim that I legally bought it before either 8/2 or the "emergency" thingy was signed (whichever applies in this case).

If you "feel bad" about f***ing the state over you might want to reevaluate your headspace.

Aa far as the 2nd part is concerned, that makes more sense.

Most pre-ban garbage is being sold by people who just want to rape the shit out of your wallet anyways. The way the new law is contorted it basically sets it up and it makes those magazines useless in a practical sense because you can't really have them on your person in public anymore.

 

[mattlach]

If you "feel bad" about f***ing the state over you might want to reevaluate your headspace.

See I don't think it's "f***ing the state over". The state doesn't stand do gain or lose anything whichever way I go.

I've never "felt bad" for any state or government.

And I'm not passing judgment on whatever anyone else chooses to do,

I've just spent a lifetime making a point out of coloring way inside the lines when it comes to all legal matters, even when I disagree with laws or I am personally negatively affected by it, and I am not about to change now. I am, not comfortable with playing footsie with the grey area when it comes to any law, no matter what it is.

I don't even cross a double yellow, or make a right on red without comping to a complete stop. Never have, never will.

I'm the kind of guy woo would turn in $1M of untraceable cash found in the woods. Wouldn't even think twice about it.

Absolutely everything with me is above board. I'd turn in my own mother if she committed a crime.

I take laws seriously. I'll fight to change ones I disagree with, but will never violate them as long as they are in place.

 

[kalash]

Absolutely everything with me is above board. I'd turn in my own mother if she committed a crime.

Umm... wow.

 

[drgrant]

See I don't think it's "f***ing the state over". The state doesn't stand do gain or lose anything whichever way I go.

I've never "felt bad" for any state or government.

And I'm not passing judgment on whatever anyone else chooses to do,

I've just spent a lifetime making a point out of coloring way inside the lines when it comes to all legal matters, even when I disagree with laws or I am personally negatively affected by it, and I am not about to change now. I am, not comfortable with playing footsie with the grey area when it comes to any law, no matter what it is.

I don't even cross a double yellow, or make a right on red without comping to a complete stop. Never have, never will.

I'm the kind of guy woo would turn in $1M of untraceable cash found in the woods. Wouldn't even think twice about it.

Absolutely everything with me is above board. I'd turn in my own mother if she committed a crime.

I take laws seriously. I'll fight to change ones I disagree with, but will never violate them as long as they are in place.

There's nothing "above board" about obeying laws that are clearly unconstitutional. There's no moral infraction being committed here if you violate stupid f***ing gun laws written by
people who hate you. I guarantee you have unwittingly/unknowingly already committed, or will commit a gun felony in massachusetts. It's not othat hard to do.

I get the risk management aspect, I don't understand the morality play you are trying to make here, thats insane, but you do you.

 

[Picton]

See I don't think it's "f***ing the state over". The state doesn't stand do gain or lose anything whichever way I go.

I've never "felt bad" for any state or government.

And I'm not passing judgment on whatever anyone else chooses to do,

I've just spent a lifetime making a point out of coloring way inside the lines when it comes to all legal matters, even when I disagree with laws or I am personally negatively affected by it, and I am not about to change now. I am, not comfortable with playing footsie with the grey area when it comes to any law, no matter what it is.

I don't even cross a double yellow, or make a right on red without comping to a complete stop. Never have, never will.

I'm the kind of guy woo would turn in $1M of untraceable cash found in the woods. Wouldn't even think twice about it.

Absolutely everything with me is above board. I'd turn in my own mother if she committed a crime.

I take laws seriously. I'll fight to change ones I disagree with, but will never violate them as long as they are in place.

I used to be a lot like you, so I can empathize.

If I can ask... what do you do when two laws come into conflict? Like, say, a state law says one thing, but federal law (or the Constitution) says something different; how do you reconcile that?

 

[Mesatchornug]

I used to be a lot like you, so I can empathize.

If I can ask... what do you do when two laws come into conflict? Like, say, a state law says one thing, but federal law (or the Constitution) says something different; how do you reconcile that?

I'll do you one better: the state, with its infinite forethought, writes two laws that conflict. Which do we follow?