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The way it escapes being an AOW is by not being able to be concealed, decidedly by the arbitrary 26"oal , If you make it less than 26" = AOW, over 26" and concealed no longer meets the definition of firearm. Not sure what guidance or more you are looking for seems pretty strait forward
Not being a dick. Just wondering. How many stripped Shockwave lowers are out there? Is it a thing?
There are virgin receivers. I have a few. They are hard to come by.
Thanks. Dodnt know they were out there. Now ill check the classifieds. Im a buyer!
before the gun buying craziness of the past year and a half they were all over gunbroker, shock waves where only a few hundred new, the parts..... stock, trigger group, barrel, bolt etc... brought more money sold individually, bought a Shockwave and a Tac 14 receiver for under a hundred each shipped and transferred
Factory SBS receivers are pretty common too, complete less barrel on gunbroker, dealers selling department trade in's without the atf paperwork hassle. technically there is no reason why this couldn't be registered again as an SBS in MA,
Yes, at least before the panic they were on gun broker.
That is just their marketing literature and not guidance from the ATF. They are reasonably being cautious in their literature since it is a bad business practice to turn your customer into potential felons.
Given the ATF's guidance that a SBR can become a regular rifle temporarily by putting on a long barrel, and in that configuration can be transported across state lines, does that mean that if I register a Shockwave as an AOW but don't make any other changes to it, it is only an AOW when it is being concealed? Transportable across state lines without paperwork (as long as you open carry)?
www.northeastshooters.com
I think we just don't know the treatment if concealed. The ATF guidance said "Please note that If the subject firearm is concealed on a person, the classification with regard to the NFA may change." So all we have is conjecture on whether it will change and if it changes, what it changes to. Yes, it might be AOW, BUT I don't see how that is supported in the regulations; not that this has stopped the ATF before. Mossberg says AOW it concealed which is clearly a hedge your bets approach to keep them and their customers out of trouble. We just don't know.
Why did we link this old thread? The ATF is approving all SBS applications w/o issue these days. I know many people that have submitted and received stamps. They are using virgin receivers in some cases and using non-virgin receivers that THEY got as just receivers (have to be careful of sawed off shotgun law in MA, so don't start with a shotgun. But if someone else breaks the gun into pieces and sells you the receiver...) Also seems off topic...Will ATF approve short barreled shotgun for MA resident
I know they stopped approving SBRs because of AR-15 ban. But SBS will they? Anyone done recently?
Quoting from the other thread, as I did not see this particular detail in this thread
Some dealers frame transfer glocks of course.
Why do you think this is not already happening?
It’s legal to possess and own if you can acquire it. The prohibition is on dealers selling them.
My understanding is this is a no go in Mass, as it runs afowl of the Mass sawed off shotgun law, as shortening the barrel (or installing a shorter barrel) on what Mass considers a shotgun is verboten.
