Those guns, they might get a bad idea, They might get up and hurt someone.Why? should it be a serious crime to be passed out with firearms in your house too?
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Those guns, they might get a bad idea, They might get up and hurt someone.Why? should it be a serious crime to be passed out with firearms in your house too?
Those guns, they might get a bad idea, They might get up and hurt someone.
I mean i had no idea that was a crime... pretty dumb if you ask meSeems like all the dude did (that they can prove) is be drunk in possession of firearms. Is it smart? Not really, but seems like much ado about nothing. No harm, no foul. Don’t give a shit who his dad is.
I agree. I shamefully admit I drove drunk for 30 years and thank god I never hurt anyone. I look back at how stupid it was and also think it would have been much better had i “Slept it off” in my car rather than driving like an irresponsible idiot.I mean i had no idea that was a crime... pretty dumb if you ask me
If he was on the side of the road he obviously drove..
But if it was in a driveway or at the bar parking lot... that's gheyy
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Why? should it be a serious crime to be passed out with firearms in your house too?
Why? Who is the victim? What was the criminal intent? If someone is passed out in their car, is the car going to start itself up and drive away and hit someone? Are the guns going to load themselves and shoot someone? What is the imminent danger?Being 'passed' out in a car with firearms should of itself be a very very serious crime.
Why not? Because what, exactly, is the crime? Be specific. What is the danger to the public if someone decides to sleep it off in their car instead of driving said car home?Why not ?
I have a lot of sympathy for those charged with dui/oui and would in a surprising number of instances give one 'free' pass depending on circumstances/record the topic at hand would be included; barely.
If the motor home is parked, how is that different from getting drunk at home and sleeping it off while your guns are in the closet?In our motorhome whilst on an adventure, yes.
Well, remember that if a cop wants to F you over they can charge you with anything they can think of. 9 out of 10 times the BS charges get tossed, but you still get locked up, car towed, pay for a lawyer and lose a few days of work for court appearances.So on this notion, if i were in my truck and had a few, and called for a ride home -ride has spare keys and my keys in my pocket. My driver had to stop for whatever reason. I in passanger seat didnt drive after a few too many bit have keya in pocketm
Then a cop shows up for some reason, and they talk to me, i coukd be charged with a dui all because ky damn keys are in my pocket because my driver is getting a snack?
Again, who was the victim? What was the criminal intent?For the period of time from when the individual left his place of residence via motor vehicle to the time of willfully (?) becoming incapacitated with drink (?)-where all the legal requirements of gun ownership/transport in the Commonwealth adhered to ?
the intent here is to continue the current policy of using red flag laws and confiscating firearms for any misdemeanor, or a suspected misdemeanor offense.Again, who was the victim? What was the criminal intent?
Huh? How was the Commonwealth victimized? Explain this, in detail.The 'victim' is quite simply society/the Commonwealth in toto.
And once again, you choose to not answer any of my questions, because it is clear you have no viable answer. Change the text to passed out, it makes no difference to the question. Is this your logic?Being 'passed out' now means sleeping?
Yes. See my personal opinion and comments below.So on this notion, if i were in my truck and had a few, and called for a ride home -ride has spare keys and my keys in my pocket. My driver had to stop for whatever reason. I in passanger seat didnt drive after a few too many bit have keya in pocketm
Then a cop shows up for some reason, and they talk to me, i coukd be charged with a dui all because ky damn keys are in my pocket because my driver is getting a snack?
Why? Who is the victim? What was the criminal intent? If someone is passed out in their car, is the car going to start itself up and drive away and hit someone? Are the guns going to load themselves and shoot someone? What is the imminent danger?
I don’t drink. I’m not defending people who get lit and then do something stupid. But I fail to see the crime here. Would it have been better if they had tried to drive home while drunk, instead of sleeping it off?
I think that your second post above nails the intent here.Huh? How was the Commonwealth victimized? Explain this, in detail.
It seems that your view is "since he was sleeping drunk in his vehicle, he must have been driving drunk at some point in the past (whether on that date or a previous occasion), therefore it is OK to charge him with driving drunk, even though the police did not discover him driving and have no evidence that he was driving drunk. And that the fact the he had guns in the car makes it worse because, well, reasons." Is that your logic?
The interesting thing here is that if the person does NOT possess a LTC, they can't be charged under this law!!!C. 269 § 10H Carrying a Firearm While Under the Influence
Whoever, having in effect a license to carry firearms issued under section 131 or 131F of chapter 140, carries on his person, or has under his control in a vehicle, a loaded firearm, as defined in section 121 of said chapter 140, while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or marijuana, narcotic drugs, depressants or stimulant substances, all as defined in section 1 of chapter 94C, or the vapors of glue shall be punished by a fine of not more than $5,000 or by imprisonment in the house of correction for not more than two and one-half years, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
you are in an absolute minority then.I vehemently disagree with charging someone not driving but sleeping it off in their car with DUI just because they are in a vehicle and possess keys. I am glad to no longer wear a badge!!!!!
bro.Being 'passed' out in a car with firearms should of itself be a very very serious crime.
that's retardedi have a friend who was trying to sleep off on a rear seat of his car - he was charged with a DUI driving. no arguments helped.
retarded was for him to follow their orders to unlock the car and step out. he should have refused and tell them to f-off.that's retarded
the fact of the sole existence of ones person should be considered a very serious crime.bro.
I'd love for our resident statist mandatory common sense hero to state his opinion on being passed out in a home with firearms.the fact of the sole existence of ones person should be considered a very serious crime.
what excuse do you personally have to exist? who allowed it? do you have a license for it?
all it will take to prosecute for that is the absolution of the private property rights.I'd love for our resident statist mandatory common sense hero to state his opinion on being passed out in a home with firearms.