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I get a lot of self mastabotory vibes from the posts regarding this. And for the NESers with erections for Ukraine I bring you good news. You can literally get on a plane now, fly there, join a western militia based out of the area, be furnished with a weapon and waste as much time as you want. A lot of people have done it. Not my cup of tea, but shit, if it's that important no ones stopping anyone.
I just wants my UNG calls to go through the roof
 

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I just don't think any of this is our business.
Apparently, it was our business when we signed the Budapest memorandum. Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons so its territorial integrity was respected and maintained. They did their part. Now it is our turn to abide by the agreement
 

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Apparently, it was our business when we signed the Budapest memorandum. Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons so its territorial integrity was respected and maintained. They did their part. Now it is our turn to abide by the agreement

lol if this was an issue why isn’t the media constantly citing it? you figure theyd be all over the jingos love bombing stuff especially with a democrat in the WH…..
 

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Maybe you should read up on Little Puty and his ambitions? You think Russia is good? [rofl] Little Puty wrote that the disintegration of the USSR was one of the greatest tragedies of the 20th Century. Yes, Little Puty wants to subjugate all the former Eastern Bloc countries and recreate the Warsaw Pact. Have you been paying attention over the last 10 years? He believes Ukraine is Russian territory and believes he deserves a sphere of influence comparable to the old USSR. The Euroweenies are weak and he knows Dementia Joe is old and senile so he sees an opening. He's a murderer and kleptomaniac, he blew up an apartment building in Moscow in 1999, killing over 300 Russian citizens so he could blame it on Chechen rebels and start the 2nd Chechen war. It also allowed him to seize power.
If that's his goal he's certainly taking his own sweet time about it. Russia is a regional power with extended nuclear capabilities.
Getting the band back together will be a tough task and that's what it would take to regain Super power status.
I have little respect for a country that would claim to be a contender for the title without being able to project power on a global scale. And maintain it.
 
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With all the media attention, I really wonder if the average Ukrainian would notice if the corrupt Ukrainian govt was replaced by a Russian one? Do they really think they will have less freedom under Putin?
 
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With all the media attention, I realy wonder if the average Ukranian would notice if the corrupt Ukranian govt was replaced by a Russian one? Do they really think they will have less freedom under Putin?
YES! Do some reading on the Donbas compared to Ukraine proper. Waiting on Dementia Joe's presser. If you don't think Little Puty is our enemy read up on the Havana Syndrome, I'll bet Russia is behind it. Totally fits Puty's MO, he has attacked our government officials and citizens. With gas prices rising it's a win, win for Puty, he needs prices to be over $75 a barrel to survive. Acquiescing to his demands will only lead to more demands, His goal is to recreate the USSR and reacquire all lost territories which he believes Mother Russia has the right to. Remember Neville Chamberlain and Hitler!
 
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It's on, Welcome to Cold War II or WWIII. Little Puty is going for it, next 48 hrs will be critical. Germany better restart their Nuclear and coal fired power plants
 
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Remember, we convinced Ukraine to give up their Russian nukes in 1994 with the assurance that they would be protected :mad: Remember, "Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"
 

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Apparently, it was our business when we signed the Budapest memorandum. Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons so its territorial integrity was respected and maintained. They did their part. Now it is our turn to abide by the agreement

Remember, we convinced Ukraine to give up their Russian nukes in 1994 with the assurance that they would be protected :mad: Remember, "Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"

We've discussed the Budapest Memorandum ad nauseam over in the real Ukraine thread.

The memo doesn't say what you think it says. It's not a treaty. We committed to respect their territory, not to defend it, and we have. The Russians "violated the memo," but nothing binds us to go punish them for it; by all means, feel free to haul them to The Hague to be tried for it...
 
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We've discussed the Budapest Memorandum ad nauseam over in the real Ukraine thread.

The memo doesn't say what you think it says. It's not a treaty. We committed to respect their territory, not to defend it, and we have. The Russians "violated the memo," but nothing binds us to go punish them for it; by all means, feel free to haul them to The Hague to be tried for it...
Didn't say it was a treaty. Real thread?
 
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