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new sight on the carry 19
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your going to use that for carry? I like it for plate/pin shoots. I wouldnt carry that way. But thats just me.
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Yup me either. Would be fun as hell in a shootout but practical? No.
I think in 5 years or so, the idea will really take off, same as it did for rifles
Have you spent any time shooting a handgun with a red dot?
Yes I have. I think it is great for competitions and target shooting when you have a relatively low heart rate. However when you get your heart rate up and the blood pumping, I have not noticed any improvement to effective combat shooting from 3-14 yards.
Not sure why heart rate would affect one sighting system and not the other. Inside 10 yards, irons and red dots are about a wash on wide open targets. Tight shots and longer distance, red dots are significantly faster. A RMR weighs 1.2oz, not really a big deal on a 21oz run. And they have proven to be rugged and reliable. There is no downside.
Well this is a carry gun, so I am assuming it is for self defense. And >95% of encounters happen within 7 yards. You are saying its a wash between the two under 10 yards, which is also saying that a red dot is unnecessary on a carry/self defense gun.
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My only problem would be the snag factor. I want a carry gun to be as snag free as possible. I once met a guy in a wheelchair, carrying a Glock with a C-more optic. He was open carrying for the most part, so snag wasn't an issue for him. With an over shirt, I could see an issue.
Just as much as saying iron sights would be unnecessary. But on the 5% of the encounters, wouldn't you want sights that are significantly better.
You forget.. you have to have the irons put on the slide as well. For if and when it goes down or ****s up.
No, and they are not significantly better. I would much rather spend that $250-600 on ammo and practice those longer, more difficult shots. That way you are mastering a skill and not relying on a crutch.
No, and they are not significantly better. I would much rather spend that $250-600 on ammo and practice those longer, more difficult shots. That way you are mastering a skill and not relying on a crutch.
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now I know you don't know what you are talking about. with the same level of skill, the dot will be faster and more accurate. Its is not a crutch.
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But it's easier to buy my skill then earn it
At age 52, I'm reading my screen using progressive contacts and reading glasses. I don't have the coin for one of these yet, but I think it is a great idea. The added bulk and snag factor are an issue. But in a low-light scenario this a red dot would be awesome. Iron sites in low light, even with tritium vials, just suck when you have trouble focusing on the front sight.
Probably $100-$150 to mill the slide, but locally someone should be able to do it for less. $450+ for the Trijicon RMR
Thanks, it is as expensive as it looks. Definately going on the someday list.
